Long term ammo storage - non climate controlled environment

yakc130 posted:

This may sound kinda weird, but what about using a food sealer to make something like a battle pack?

I did some ammo about 5 years ago with a food saver brand vac sealer that I use for food saving.   Standard grade bags from Walmart.   Doubled some it two layers of bags with silicon Desicant packs    

I would say about half were compromised meaning the bags lost their vacuum   I think the issue is that the bags get holes poked in them from the internal contents like the edges of ammo boxes or from the outside.   I am not talking about rough handling.    I mean just sitting in a go-bag or a box with some relatively low levels of storage shuffling.   

I have since come to learn that vaccuum sealers have their place in food storage but some big time hunters (Steve Rinella) prefer plastic wrap inside of butcher paper for frozen meat storage because the vaccuum bags get pierced by moving around in the freezer.

There may be better grade bags that can handle more of a beating but the standard stuff won’t hold up to much.   

Your results may vary but I went back to ziplocks and contractor grade garbage bags.   I am going to look into some commercial grade plastic bags from uline.  

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Desk_jockey posted:
yakc130 posted:

This may sound kinda weird, but what about using a food sealer to make something like a battle pack?

I did some ammo about 5 years ago with a food saver brand vac sealer that I use for food saving.   Standard grade bags from Walmart.   Doubled some it two layers of bags with silicon Desicant packs    

I would say about half were compromised meaning the bags lost their vacuum   I think the issue is that the bags get holes poked in them from the internal contents like the edges of ammo boxes or from the outside.   I am not talking about rough handling.    I mean just sitting in a go-bag or a box with some relatively low levels of storage shuffling.   

I have since come to learn that vaccuum sealers have their place in food storage but some big time hunters (Steve Rinella) prefer plastic wrap inside of butcher paper for frozen meat storage because the vaccuum bags get pierced by moving around in the freezer.

There may be better grade bags that can handle more of a beating but the standard stuff won’t hold up to much.   

Your results may vary but I went back to ziplocks and contractor grade garbage bags.   I am going to look into some commercial grade plastic bags from uline.  

Having been in industries over many years that deal with the FDA I would think there are “Food Grade” bags available. If the FDA doesn’t have info on this the USDA might. 

I would hazard a guess that anything identified as “Food Grade” would be either thicker or more resilient to small vacuum degrading/compromising  punctures. 

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My food sealer has two settings.

One is  for "dry" foods. It will take all of the air out of the pouch. Sucks it right down  to nothing.

The other setting is for "wet" foods. It will take out almost all of the air, but it leave enough inside so that it doesn't start to suck the juice/gravy out and into the vacuum attachment of the machine. But when you cut the bag open, there is still a vacuum seal.

If you placed some desiccant bags around the corners to reduce the sharp edges, and used  the "wet" foods setting, would it work better?

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Just put the ammo in a gallon ziploc bag and then put that inside the seal a meal bag. Unless you are moving it around a bunch it works well. I recommend desiccant pouches be included too. If you want better structure then consider buying some of those cheap plastic ammo boxes and storing the bags inside them. Also you might want to put the bag before it is sealed inside the box so it takes on the same form of the box then seal it. Pistol ammo is much easier to store in sealed bags because it doesn't have sharpe tips.  It is the pointed tips of ones like the 223 which has problems. 

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