OK, I wanted to show "A" way of setting up a windproof smock.  The Soldier '95 pattern smock is relatively cheap and available so it makes a good starting point.  But it's needs some work, IMHO, so here's one way of going about it.  Everything you see here was done on a single feed industrial, with no. 69 thread, and a #23 needle.  

The first thing that comes to mind on a Brit smock is the zip.  Why they insist on doing it bitch style is beyond me.  But it's easily fixable.  So a #10 YKK zip is installed, with the pull on the right side.  I back it up with binding tape to make the joint stronger, but you could probably get by without it.  Also, I cut the Velcro down to 1" squares, which I think is a good balance between staying put and getting them open.  

   

On the top the zip goes all the way up to the collar/storm flap on the hood.  The binding tape is folded over here and triple stitched.

On the bottom, I sew down the tail, right to the end, instead of leaving a small tail loose like the issue smock.  I think it's just easier to zip up this way, in the cold with gloves on.  Again the tape is folded under and triple sewn on the ends.  

 

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

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Next we'll take a look at the hood.  Issue Brit smocks have had some interesting shapes to them.  They must have some pointy-headed cretins in the ranks, because the hood is basically a big cone.  So you can fix that, by separating the two layers, creating a new, rounded seam, cutting off the pointy top, and sewing it back together.  While you're at it, you might as well add a small visor in front, and replace the drawstring with bungee and cord locks.

Another shot from the side.  The hood was also cut down slightly in front, and new visor added, which gives pro from rain but doesn't obstruct vison as much.

Next we tackled the cuffs.  I like something that is easy to use, when removing and putting on gloves, so I use a binding tape tunnel and shock cord.  A piece of 1" webbing with a grommet is used to take the strain off the tape.  You could probably get away without it.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Next we'll take a look at the waist and skirt drawstrings.  The Brits use regular "shoe lace", with internal breaks in the tunnels for the waist.  I used a continuous piece of 1" binding tape with shock cord and cord locks.  The locks are just short of the zip so they don't interfere with the pull.

I used the existing tunnel for the skirt, just adding cord and locks.  If you look close, you can also see where I removed those goofy hand warmer packets and sewed the pass-through opening shut.  The felt lining absorbed water and added weight when wet.  So they were shit-canned. 

Also the issue mesh pockets were replaced with sturdier mesh that doesn't fray with use.  The existing pockets were cut out (along with the yoke reinforcement up top), and new pockets simply taped and sewn in.  The pass-through zips outside remain the same.  

 

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

On pockets.  I know this is heresy to some, but I replace the (exposed) Canadian buttons with Velcro.  If you look at the issue shoulder pockets, you can see the pattern I used.

So the top flaps were cut down and Velcro squares added.

Notice how the pocket extends up onto the top flap and folds over for secure closure.  

 

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

So again, "A" way of doing it.  It isn't as ally as a Jay Jay's, Arktis, or SASS, but it works pretty damn good.

I really like the windproof smock concept, as a light, single outer layer which can be tailored to conditions by adding subtracting layers underneath it as required.  This gives you much more versatility as compared to multiple layer jackets, with sewn-in insulation and WP layers.  Also as a tactical consideration, the smock provides better camo, especially when wet, as opposed to hard shells.  It is quieter with less sheen, especially under NIR.  So for things like close target recce it is a preferred garment.  

To waterproof it, you simply add a single layer WP shell underneath it, like the Thunder Ledge or Arktis jacket (and trou).  For insulation, wind shirt, gridded fleece on the move, or puffy suit when stationary.  By using a single outer layer, only the smock needs to be camo'd, thereby cutting down on so many expensive camo layers.  Single earth-tone colors can be used for all other layers.

The Brits (and others) have been doing this for years, instead of insisting on each layer being camo'd and/or worn on the outside.  It just makes sense to me as well.       

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

I have a windproof smock I bought through an add in SOF magazine around 1980. My mods are just adding cuffs in the sleeves. I did add zippers to the two small pockets on the inside back but removed them along with a waist cord. I always wondered about the bitch zipper LOL. Like you said you can keep alot of level 1 stuff with you all the time.

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Yeah as an added bonus, you can keep a bunch of shit on you, versus the belt kit or ruck.  The shoulder pockets are especially good for this purpose.   Small E&E and medical kits can be carried here.  The pass-through chest pockets are nice for maps, gloves, watch cap, etc.  Front chest pockets are the office: notebook, pen, and flashlight on one side; compass, pace beads on the other.  Waist pockets are good for over-mitts, windshirt or other thin layers, or even some snacks.

The shock cord cuffs are inspired by the old sewn in elastic cuffs.

I don't have the old "poacher" pockets on this smock, but also good for additional clothing layers that may be coming on n off as you travel.       

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Was going to ask about the poacher pocket.  Seems to be the final piece for complete utility. 

Also, do you like a smock cut longer in the rear, or straight around the top of the thigh?  Was thinking about when bent over, or seated or to help keep wind/blowing rain/snow out, like the M51 fishtail parka.

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In Yorktown, VA.          Joined August 2008

Gov't Civilian, after retiring from active duty in 2015. 

 

'One's own open sore never smells.'  - Haitian proverb

Yeah Brigade Quartermasters used to sell a Brit style Gortex suit that was designed to be worn under the parka or windproof smock.  Arktis still sells something similar (and probably made the BQ suit) since guys over there do this all the time.  I use a Red Ledge "Thunder Light" jacket and trou, which is a very light, one-layer WP system, not much thicker than a windshirt and trou, which works nicely under the smock and combat trousers.  They have been extensively tested on combat deployments by SF dudes, which is where I found out about them.  Very light and packable as opposed to issue gtx stuff.  They are very reasonably priced, especially when compared to Gucci stuff that costs hundreds of dollars.   

This smock is already spoken for.  Will be sending it out to a buddy this week for his testing.

Yeah I just like the concept of having a single outer layer, which is camo'd for visual and NIR, doesn't glint in rain, or make noise when busting bush.  I'm not surprised this concept is being re-visited.      

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

On the skirt cut, the issue smock is already cut a little longer than we used to have on our jackets, like the M-65.  So you're already there to begin with, and the shock cord skirt draws it in when windy.  If this is an issue I'd go with a bib-style trou.  

Poacher pockets are legit, I just didn't add them on this smock.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

I'm surprised nobody busted my nuts for shit-canning the Canadian buttons.  I really love them, but I figured for cold weather ops, with gloves and mitts, this might be the easiest way to get in and out of them.  Also wanted to streamline the top flaps a little bit.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Hey cool it's pretty much your size, I'm swimming in it.  Like to see whatcha think about it.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

The “Stealth Suit” was/is pretty common in Canada for wear under the camo shirt in warmer weather. Simple goretex jacket and trouser in either greenish or blackish  

I wore a puffy, a stealth jacket and a PCS smock hunting this year in heavy wet snow. You can see the stealth suit top under my smock Worked great. 

Typically I carry my tags/licenses/pen/compass in my chest pockets, light toque, glove liners, neck gaiter etc in the lower pockets, and usually a clif bar or two  4A3DC9E0-B172-4641-85BC-2BF94A5C1DF9

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Here's the system I use with it.  First the Sekri L1 zip-top.

This is my go-to base layer for about 50 deg and lower.  

Next up the Propper L4 Windshirt.

Incredibly warm for it's weight, especially on the move.  Worn right over the base layer.

Next the Sekri L2 Gridded Fleece.

This sucker is really warm but also really breathable.  Wear without windshirt when you're really humping it.  Wear windshirt over it to shut airflow down.  

 

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Next up the WP layer.  Here is the Redledge Thunder Light parka.

This is an older model in "taupe" (yeah looks a lot like OD green to me too).  This worn right over base layer, such L1 or L2 layer, and underneath smock.  

Here's a pic of the inside.  Notice single layer, no liner, etc.  and taped seams.  

 

Here's the trou,  They run small so size up.  I usually wear medium trou and these older trou are XL.  Hopefully they have adjusted this by now.  These fit nicely under regular cammies or L5 soft shell trou.    

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

So yeah there's the whole system.  Was going to start another thread but it kinda all runs together.  Only thing not shown is happy suit, but that's basically a stationary item.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

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