With the pre-order starting soon, I was wondering if anyone had any hands on expirence or thoughts on the new MTEK Flux ballistic helmet.  Has some interesting features and dosnt appear to have a cam fit system like some of the other premium helmets on the market.  (link to their website http://www.mtekusa.com/#protection ) They have some close up pictures of the inside of the helmet on their Facebook and Instagram accounts.  Interested to hear what you guys think.

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What ever happened to the "rifle rated" helmets that were supposed to be on the market about a year ago?  The DOD news sites were constantly talking about them...then crickets.  In theory, they could have maintained the current ratings at much lighter weight or moved to some rifle protection for the current weight?

 

I think the idea was defeating 7.62x39. Given what the SLAP solution looks like from Velocity, the helmets will have to be bigger and heavier. Another problem, of course, is defeating the round may not be sufficient as 1200 - 2400 ft pounds of energy transferred to the helmet get transferred to your head/neck. Anyway, I'd love to see this as well, but you don't even see guys rocking IIIA face shields, so I'm not sure who is going to voluntarily take a rifle rated helmet with them.

It seems strange as the "ECH" was supposed to be fielded by now and they were allegedly sending out quantities of helmets to units to try out.  The only complaint from what I saw was that they could have just stayed with current protection levels and gone to a lighter weight vice going to a higher level of protection at the current weight.  3M has the ECH listed on their website as they were the manufacturer...so one would assume they are making them.  It seems like mtec, Team Wendy, Ops Core, Crye...they would want to jump on that technology ASAP.  Just strange that they haven't.  

FedDC posted:

It seems strange as the "ECH" was supposed to be fielded by now

I hadn't heard anything about those in a couple years until several weeks ago, we had to go get sized for them. We're supposedly getting them before we deploy and I'll update here on my opinions of it when I have it in hand, if there's interest.

drummerdude1188 posted:

Well I went ahead and pre ordered it.  If anyone is interested I'll post photos and do my best to answer any questions when it gets in.

I'm in for photos and a review. I need a good helmet that's comfy, too many TBI's to risk not having a good lid. 

I need another Red Bull. 

Kango posted:

Anyone get a shipping confirmation yet?

I also noticed they lowered their MSRP by $300.

$1,064 is the lowered MSRP? Really wish these things had come out sooner. Trying to get a helmet following the shit in Dallas but am having trouble deciding between MFLUX and a couple others.

Ok so I got a little time to play around with the helmet last night.  Don't feel like uploading photos to photobucket to post them right now but my first impressions are that it is extremely lightweight, even compared to the Highcom Striker ACH helmets which I thought were pretty light.  It comes with 3 padding options to fit the helmet to the head.  There is a set of built in pads and then a thick and thin set that can be added on to get the exact fit.  its a large shell so if you have a small head it might look a little goofy but I was still able to get a solid and comfortable fit with my small head inside the helmet.  I called and bugged them about making a smaller shell for S/M size heads, maybe let them know so they will have a little more motivation to do so lol.  

Let me know if you guys have any specific questions.  Eventually ill get photos up.

drummerdude1188 posted:

Ok so I got a little time to play around with the helmet last night.  Don't feel like uploading photos to photobucket to post them right now but my first impressions are that it is extremely lightweight, even compared to the Highcom Striker ACH helmets which I thought were pretty light.  It comes with 3 padding options to fit the helmet to the head.  There is a set of built in pads and then a thick and thin set that can be added on to get the exact fit.  its a large shell so if you have a small head it might look a little goofy but I was still able to get a solid and comfortable fit with my small head inside the helmet.  I called and bugged them about making a smaller shell for S/M size heads, maybe let them know so they will have a little more motivation to do so lol.  

Let me know if you guys have any specific questions.  Eventually ill get photos up.

Have you ever messed with a Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic? Wondering how the FLUX Ballistic compares. I'm specifically wondering about the suspension system since the FLUX doesn't have the Boa CAM-FIT dial or any kind of nape support at all. Thanks in advance.

Got mine in Friday. This thing is light, having worn both the Ops Core FAST and Maritime, this thing is light. Super comfy, TCI Liberator IIs with the headband on underneath and no vise grip to the head. The only discomfort is from my eyepro (Oakley FLAK Jackets) which I expected and may can mitigate some when I get the rail mounts. The helmet cups the back of your head pretty good but a counterweight will still be needed for NODS. Chinstrap is similar (may even be the same) as the TW helmets. To anyone wishing to rail mount. The rails are MLOK thus you need there proprietary ARC adapter along with the ARC rails. All hardware is specific to this helmet thus chinstraps from other companies won't work. 

As mentioned, the shell is freaking huge, looks goofy as heck if your not wearing the earpro, but it fits like a glove. Spoke with the guys at MTEK, they are working on a left eye dominate chinstrap and have helmet covers that will be available in the coming weeks/months. Multicam and possibly old school woodland will be in the mix. I asked about possible replacement rails, he said that may be a option down the road.

The cut is around the same on the sides as the Maritime, this was a selling point for me as rail mounted on a regular FAST would still have the earcups setting low, with the Maritime it just fits right.

A note on their customer service. Very responsive to emails, they had some confusion between MTEK and the guys actually putting these together, he told me it would ship a certain day, a week later nothing, emailed back. He personally called me after he got off the phone with the guy and had him pack it while he was on the line. He didn't know where the mess up happened but was quick to set it right, and even threw in a free set of the their ARC adapters.

Will update when I have a little more time with it, it's been confined to quarters until I can get out to the range.

Gotten a little more time with it and now have my Liberators rail mounted.

Comfort is still awesome and with the rail mounts I can put the center pad back in which helps. Eye pro is a lot less painful to the point of a minor annoyance with the helmet mounted liberators. I've been limited to only 5-6 hours at a time under NODs with it, I've got tomorrow off so gonna take it along on one of my rucks and just put in a good full night of rucking. I have had no "popping out" with the headsets thus far and they are riding at the perfect height, something I couldn't get with the standard Ops-Core FAST.

Use with NODs. 14's with a light counterweight works great. I had noticed some minor sagging to the side with a single tube unit, this can be fixed easy with tightening the chin strap but now that I have my headset mounted it's a none issue as the headset holds the helmet level. Dual tubes also require a counterweight but the way that the helmet cups the back of your head the amount of weight needed isn't as much as what you would think it would be. I do not own my own set of dual tubes at this time so any testing with them is limited to when I can borrow a pair. I'm saving for my own set at this time. I still like the dial liner type systems for anything heavy, but the shape of this helmet makes it work surprisingly well for NODs. Due to the size of the helmet my 14s don't sit as close to my face as I would like, I'm looking at options to fix that but with my hope to upgrade to dual tubes in the coming months I'm probably just gonna deal with it until then.

Ventilation isn't great but it also isn't horrible. The padding system helps channel a little bit of airflow through the helmet but it is a ballistic, airflow is never going to be great.

I'm not a fan of the chinstrap. The buckle just feels huge and like it sticks out and the camfit adjustments, while they work, just seem more like a hassle. Maybe it's just because I'm a spoiled by Ops-Core chin straps as well as a huge fan. I really wish they would switch to a Ops-Core style strap but as it is it's not bad, more of a personal preference kinda thing. It's still leaps and bounds better then that abomination of a issued chin strap, and the cam fit locks the helmet in place thus no loosening. I spoke with MTEK the other day and they have a LED chin strap coming in the next few weeks.

Helmet covers are available now. Will be getting one in Multicam soon. I'm liking what I'm seeing in the pictures so hopefully they work out well.

Got my Mtek today, first impressions are similar to the dudes above...extremely lightweight and fits my head loke a glove. Very impressed. I see that Mtek offers covers, not all impressed by the solid design. I'd like to see a mesh offering. I emailed them today about that. Also, any thoughts on putting a Team Wendy mesh exful cover on Mtek. I might try that as I've messaged firstspear and ops core, both say their covers won't fit. Keep you all in the loop on what I figure out works.

 

Given the cut in the rear, and the accompanying coverage for the lower-skull. I can foresee difficulties looking up in the prone if I was to use that helmet. Everything is a compromise until you improve materials or your base methodology for doing things. Also, if the inner liner isn't somehow adjustable, then stability with night vision devices may be compromised. The TW Liner, and OC Dial have cornered the market in that regard, and I don't see anyone going back. Even my bike helmet has an adjustable liner to fit the circumference of the skull.

I've had no issues in prone with mine and the liner it comes with is similar to the TW Epic air, only without the air channels, you could put the TW liner in it if you wanted. The helmet comes with multiple comfort pads, a thinner set and a thicker set, once I got everything dialed in and the chin strap tightened right, stability with NODs have become a none issue to the point I'm no longer using a counter weight. My only complaints at this point are there is no left eye dominate chin strap, thus why i'm trying to trade it for an Ops-Core.

No troubles at all going prone or looking up to see under my nods. Could just be my anatomy and body make up. Awesome helmet thus far. 

- on a side note, the warranty registration is via QR code (im told,maybe i misunderstood) on a sticker inside the helmet. I scanned it and all it does is take me to the warranty info on the Mtek website. Customer service said they can send me a paper card..i told them not necessary do long as i can register thru QR code. 

GhostGK posted:

Anybody have info pertaining to the Flux ballistic new shell thickness and sizing? 

Can't find any info good on the web. Wrote mtek but their reply is long over due.

Where did you hear about the new shell thickness and sizing? What details do you have?

I compared mine at some recent training to the instructors older one, there was a small difference in thickness at one part and that was in the bottom corners on the back of the helmet around the rail, is this what you were meaning?

And another update:

-Left eye dominate chin straps are now available, not on site so you have to call or email.

-Works well with PVS-31s, I've switched from a counterweight mindset to a "train your neck muscles the right way" mindset and not looking back.

-Works well with Avon masks, spent a good solid week in one recently.

 

 

I realize this is a necro-post but does anyone else have a problem with the chin strap being too short? I have my size 2 (L/XL) Flux set to full extension and still don't have enough room. Maybe I'm just a gorilla face... 

"On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux."

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