There's been alot of posts on the Seiko 007/009 automatics. Anyone using any of the Seiko Diver Kinetic models?

I'm thinking of this one:



Looks basically like a Kinetic version of the basic diver's watch. I don't wear a watch all the time and this would likely kill an automatic without buying a winder, so I'm thinking the Kinetic is a good option.
I like that a lot. Get one for me while you're at it.

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Looks basically like a Kinetic version of the basic diver's watch. I don't wear a watch all the time and this would likely kill an automatic without buying a winder, so I'm thinking the Kinetic is a good option.


I don't think you will kill an auto by letting it sit. Most jewelers I have talked to said you put unnecessary wear on autos if you have them constantly on a winder. If you are wearing five watches in a rotation- fine. Put them on the winder. If you are keeping them on a winder "just in case" but don't actually wear the watch more than once per few months, just shake it, set it, and put it on (assuming a relatively simple watch without a ton of complications that track cyclical stuff like phase of the moon or Lindsay Lohan's rehab visits). If you are concerned about the lubricants "congealing" and don't wear something frequently, take it out once a month, move it in a circular motion* (or if it can hand wind- hand wind it) then let it run down.

*Keep in mind, Miyota (Citizen) movements only wind in one direction, but usually have hand winding capability. Lower end Seikos don't hand wind but will auto wind both CW and CCW.

I don't buy that about lubricants congealing if a watch is left too long.



But, um, you know, just in case, I, uh, well, wind my unused watches [cough], once a month. Big Grin

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Thanks for the great info.

I was worried more along the lines that if I didn't wear an automatic regularly and I wouldn't be "winding" it regularly and that would somehow cause problems.

I never heard the one about internal lubricants congealing though. But even if that isn't BS, I would still wear it at least once a month.
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I never heard the one about internal lubricants congealing though. But even if that isn't BS, I would still wear it at least once a month.


Modern lubricants aren't as bad as the older stuff, according to what I've read on collector's watch boards. They apparently used to use sperm whale oil on precision instruments back in the 19th and early 20th century. Eek

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Originally posted by Jackal419:
I've wanted to purchase a H3 Traser watch for a while but finally decided to get one. This is their brand new P6600, rated down to 660 ft. I'm loving it.



Ive been reading a lot of good stuff about this watch, and want to purchase one. i have been having trouble finding a reliable source, and have been finding huge differences in prices. can someone help me out here? what is a normal price for this exact watch, and where is a reliable source i can get it from that has it in stock? thanks!
One of the watches I have is a green Casio Pathfinder PAW-1200

Key things that rock for me:
-Solar power
-World clocks. Dual time. Good implementation.
-5 daily alarms.
-Atomic time syncing that covers CONUS, Japan and Europe.
-Altimeter w/altitude alarm.
-Light that turns on with a flick of the wrist. Can be turned on and off. Good for night running.
-has A TON of other features. stop watch, count down, barometer, thermometer etc.

What sucks:
-CANT. TURN. OFF. BEEPS. Press a button it beeps. No option to turn off so it's a deal breaker for what I consider a near perfect all around beater tactical watch. I can't help love this watch though...but the no turn off beeps kills this for a tactical watch. I've looked in the manual and have written Casio. If you know something I don't please tell me.
-Would rock if alarms vibrated instead of chimed. Sometimes I want to be reminded discreetly.
-Resin watch band encompassing the watch. If the band goes bad not many options to fix.

Old info updated but relevant for those catching up with this thread.

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Originally posted by mags:
Keld, I looked at the Emergency series a couple of years ago. Chose against it because of the beacons freq. I read or thought I read that the world wide SAR-SAT system was changing freqs and the Brietlings would send on a different one. Does your buddy know anything 'bout this?
I think "Bear" wheres one on his show Man Vs Wild.


The deadline was 1 February 2009. It was a migration from 121.5 MHz to 406 MHz range. 121.5 MHz is no longer processed by COSPAS-SARSAT.

More info here in this PDF. If you're considering a watch, or anything else, that uses the COPAS-SARSAT EPIRB you need to know this. http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/Phaseout_Brochure.pdf

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Originally posted by 25E5V:
One of the watches I have is a green Casio Pathfinder PAW-1200

Key things that rock for me:
-Solar power
-World clocks. Dual time. Good implementation.
-5 daily alarms.
-Atomic time syncing that covers CONUS, Japan and Europe.
-Altimeter w/altitude alarm.
-Light that turns on with a flick of the wrist. Can be turned on and off. Good for night running.
-has A TON of other features. stop watch, count down, barometer, thermometer etc.

What sucks:
-CANT. TURN. OFF. BEEPS. Press a button it beeps. No option to turn off so it's a deal breaker for what I consider a near perfect all around beater tactical watch. I can't help love this watch though...but the no turn off beeps kills this for a tactical watch. I've looked in the manual and have written Casio. If you know something I don't please tell me.
-Would rock if alarms vibrated instead of chimed. Sometimes I want to be reminded discreetly.
-Resin watch band encompassing the watch. If the band goes bad not many options to fix.

Old info updated but relevant for those catching up with this thread.

quote:
Originally posted by mags:
Keld, I looked at the Emergency series a couple of years ago. Chose against it because of the beacons freq. I read or thought I read that the world wide SAR-SAT system was changing freqs and the Brietlings would send on a different one. Does your buddy know anything 'bout this?
I think "Bear" wheres one on his show Man Vs Wild.


The deadline was 1 February 2009. It was a migration from 121.5 MHz to 406 MHz range. 121.5 MHz is no longer processed by COSPAS-SARSAT.

More info here in this PDF. If you're considering a watch, or anything else, that uses the COPAS-SARSAT EPIRB you need to know this. http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/Phaseout_Brochure.pdf


The watches were never intended to be tracked by satellite (not enough range on the signal). Individual SAR assets (HELOs, etc.) still have 121.5 equipment. The watch signal can help vector SAR resources to you when they are within a few miles (depending upon terrain). The signal is obviously better on a flat calm ocean or top of a mountain vs. in a valley. That is why Breitling still sells the emergency.

I found this on a Breitling fan website
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The transmitter is activated (for 48 hours) by unscrewing a protective cap and pulling the antenna out fully. Over flat terrain or calm seas, the transmitter signal has a range of about 160Km (assuming the search aircraft is flying at an altitude of 6000m).

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Originally posted by Azimuth:
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Originally posted by danneskjold:
I bought myself a Sinn U1:



Have only had it for a day now, but so far I really like it.
Wearing it on a NATO strap.


That's damn nice.


This watch is the heat!!!

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Originally posted by KLR_Redux:
quote:
Originally posted by 25E5V:
quote:
Originally posted by mags:
Keld, I looked at the Emergency series a couple of years ago. Chose against it because of the beacons freq. I read or thought I read that the world wide SAR-SAT system was changing freqs and the Brietlings would send on a different one. Does your buddy know anything 'bout this?

Awesome!!! Thanks. Good to know.
I think "Bear" wheres one on his show Man Vs Wild.


The deadline was 1 February 2009. It was a migration from 121.5 MHz to 406 MHz range. 121.5 MHz is no longer processed by COSPAS-SARSAT.

More info here in this PDF. If you're considering a watch, or anything else, that uses the COPAS-SARSAT EPIRB you need to know this. http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/Phaseout_Brochure.pdf


The watches were never intended to be tracked by satellite (not enough range on the signal). Individual SAR assets (HELOs, etc.) still have 121.5 equipment. The watch signal can help vector SAR resources to you when they are within a few miles (depending upon terrain). The signal is obviously better on a flat calm ocean or top of a mountain vs. in a valley. That is why Breitling still sells the emergency.

I found this on a Breitling fan website
quote:
The transmitter is activated (for 48 hours) by unscrewing a protective cap and pulling the antenna out fully. Over flat terrain or calm seas, the transmitter signal has a range of about 160Km (assuming the search aircraft is flying at an altitude of 6000m).


Thanks. Good to know. Awesome!

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Originally posted by Hooahmonster:
There's been alot of posts on the Seiko 007/009 automatics. Anyone using any of the Seiko Diver Kinetic models?

I'm thinking of this one:



Looks basically like a Kinetic version of the basic diver's watch. I don't wear a watch all the time and this would likely kill an automatic without buying a winder, so I'm thinking the Kinetic is a good option.


Hooah,

I have that Seiko kinetic. IMHO, it is a great watch. I do not have any others really to compare it to and it is my first nicer watch, but I love it. It is very accurate and it is big and heavy which I like.
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Originally posted by Casket:
Here you go.

From left to right. The non-waterproof HTO watch, the crappy $100 "Deep Sea" thing, the Sub, the Saiko dive watch, and the G-shock I actually use in the field now. On top is a SA mil-spec 1911 and an Old Guard coin.

...Crap. I forgot to put a cool knife in the photo!


Nice fucking watches, nice fucking pistol, and when were you at Ft. Myer? Or were an Animal Guard trooper like me?

I have owned a Rolex GMT Master, two Omega Seamasters, Citizens (still do), and Seikos but my hands-down, no-shit, go anywhere watch is that ugly fucker of a Casio G-Shock.
I love her........
I hate her...........She's the fat girl at the dance but you keep going back because she'll reliably and predictably suck the sheets through your ass. Plus at $300-600 a pop to have that Rolex serviced, I sold it and bought my first Wilson CQB (which I ran the dog-piss out of!).
It seems I've matured and appreciate function over form.
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Originally posted by John Friscia:
Seiko 007 whatever--
Where's the best place to get and the best price this watch is going for? Any suggestions? I keep getting quoted around $350......


Looks like the best price right now for new is $169 delivered from Creation Watches. I haven't purchased from them, but they've gotten good reviews on the Seiko Citizen Watch Forum.

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Originally posted by Jim C.:
quote:
Originally posted by John Friscia:
Seiko 007 whatever--
Where's the best place to get and the best price this watch is going for? Any suggestions? I keep getting quoted around $350......


Looks like the best price right now for new is $169 delivered from Creation Watches. I haven't purchased from them, but they've gotten good reviews on the Seiko Citizen Watch Forum.


I am pretty sure that is where I got mine. Fast shipping. The only thing IIRC, is that they handle any repairs or warranty claims instead of the MFG. That was ok with me, I would take it to a local place anyway.

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quote:
Originally posted by John Friscia:
Seiko 007 whatever--
Where's the best place to get and the best price this watch is going for? Any suggestions? I keep getting quoted around $350......


I got mine from Chronograph.com. It came with a warranty card and everything, so when I needed to send it back for repairs I sent back to Seiko in the US. I got 007K for $182; the 007J is more expensive.
Lately I've been thinking that it's time to grow up and buy a nice watch. I've been looking at Omegas because I figure that if it's good enough for the Moon and James Bond then it's good enough for me. Can anyone tell me a little about Omegas? I don't plan on abusing an expensive watch like that but things in my possession tend to get knocked around a bit.
Ok I have the bug now after this thread to get a decent watch. I currently have been wearing an old Titanium Victerinox watch that I like. It has served through multiple deployments and taken a beating. Im looking at the Marathon watches on countrycomm. What is the difference between the TSAR and the SAR? The other ones look too big. Also, it is described as an "automatic" what does that mean? Do I have to wind it, does it take batteries, etc. If someone can school me on how they function.

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Originally posted by Ground Pounder:
\What is the difference between the TSAR and the SAR? The other ones look too big. Also, it is described as an "automatic" what does that mean? Do I have to wind it, does it take batteries, etc. If someone can school me on how they function.


The SAR and TSAR are mechanically identical--they both have a quartz movement which means you don't have to wind it b/c it uses a battery for power. The only difference is that the SAR uses Luminova (fancy glow-in-the-dark paint, essentially) for illumination whereas the SAR uses tritium vials. The GSAR has the same tritium illumination as the TSAR and is an automatic movement which means that the motion of your wrist moving around winds a spring in the movement to keep the watch running--it CAN be manually wound if you haven't worn the watch for a while or it's brand new but if you wear it regularly that shouldn't be necessary.

The SAR, TSAR, and GSAR all use the same case--the CSAR (chronograph model) and JSAR (jumbo Flava Flav model) use a larger case (46 mm. IIRC).

If you're interested, I should be getting my GSAR back today from a full servicing at Marathon's factory back in the land of fancy chocolate, watches, and some of the most underrated wimmenz in Europe. I was thinking about putting it up in the Swap Meet (I use some of the features on my G-Shock a whole shitload more than I thought I would) so keep an eye out.

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Actually, the SAR, GSAR and CSAR are automatics; the TSAR and JSAR have quartz movements.

There are a shitload of different articles found on Google which attempt to explain the differences between quartz, automatic, and manual wind watches. The basic difference is the power source which makes the watch operate. Quartz watches use a battery, and mechanical watches (both auto and manual wind) use a mainspring. Quartz watches are generally more accurate than mechanical, and mechanical will generally last longer if serviced regularly.

The ETA 2824 movement in the SAR and GSAR is automatic, though it can also be wound up by hand. If you wear it every day and are moderately active, you shouldn't need to wind it. If you purchase a new one, it's likely to run a bit fast until it settles in. The last SAR I had ran about 5 seconds fast per day, while a TSAR should be off by less than a second.

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Originally posted by Jim C.:
Actually, the SAR, GSAR and CSAR are automatics; the TSAR and JSAR have quartz movements.


I'll be damned--you're right on that and I was mistaken...

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It could probably be done at someplace like a watch kiosk in a mall, but I'd recommend taking it to a real watchmaker who can replace both the battery and case back gasket along with pressure testing when done. I'm not sure how close you are to Albuquerque or if these guys even work on quartz watches, but if they don't they could probably point you toward someone local.

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Originally posted by mcgrubbs:
So do the Marathon -SAR watches have to go somewhere special/authorized/certified to get their battery changed?


I've heard good stuff about THESE GUYS (hell, it was probably a recommendation from here) and sooner or later I'm probably going to send my Dad's early '60s Omega there to be refurbished.

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MadFucking Suunto... my Vector is crappin out on me. The plastic is easily scratched, I have water under the lense, even after I dried it out and changed the battery. The fucking battery compartment slot to unscrew it has plastic that is softer then jello and wont hold up to any abuse. The plastic lens face is also soft and scratch's if you look at the fucking thing wrong or breath on it. Now its freaking out and going through each and every option is a poltergiest were pushing the buttons wiht the lume on constant on.

Fuck....

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I've had the exact same problem with the same model of Suunto, but with the additional issue of digit display. The watch is holding time, but doesn't display the correct digits or all of the digits. I actually bought the Seiko to tide me over while I sent the Suunto off for repairs, but I'm not in much of a hurry to do so now.

I think in the future my Suunto will be used a lot less than my Seiko, as in probably only for PT and going to the field.
I think the Suunto Core is a vastly better watch simply based on the fact that then construction is metal housing with a crystal face, much more scratch/


The part that pisses me off the most is the batteryc compartment plate, its as if you dont have the EXACT width item to unscrew it its bound to be completely and utterly destroyed by your screwdriver or watever you have at hand, in my case a gerber (no coins in Iraq... just fucking AAFES Pog's). Now its straight fucked.

Cheers, Matt

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Originally posted by Mark Enders:
My TSAR lost it's bezel lume triangle. What's the fix? Mad


Buying my GSAR? Wink Eek Big Grin

If your watch is less than a year old and you got it from an authorized dealer it should be covered under warranty, otherwise I'd send it to THISOUTFIT to have the triangle filled with lume.

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Originally posted by lhc9185:
Doug,

What's the model number on that g-shock? It should be on the back. I think I need one!

Lewis


The GW-2500. I think they look sharp with the altimeter motif. They have resin and metal band versions as well. Ebay has plenty but they're OCONUS.

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