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Can anyone recommend a watch repair service in the greater Chicago area?  My brother lives in the north suburbs and needs his Squale auto diver serviced.

Thanks 

 

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Subterfuge/Artifice/Alex has been great to me.  Love the watch, wear it every day.  I've sent it back twice for repairs now, once because I'm not nice to my things, and once because of a movement issue probably similar to what JCUSTISREDUX mentioned.  The longest I think I ever waited was 6-7 months.  This all happened in the 2016/2017 timeframe.  Watch has been fine for probably about a year now so haven't had to get in touch with him about anything.

I may be slightly off with dates and times, I'm just going from memory, I didn't make a diary entry or anything.

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With all the recent chatter about Alex/Subterfuge, I came to the realization that I really don't wear the watch I had him do for me. Bead blasted 009, flat crystal and NATO. It's the one on the left in this pic from page 85 of this thread - https://www.lightfighter.net/t...00#22978052471918300

Great watch, just not one I find myself grabbing from the case in the morning.

Anyway, I guess I'm looking to move it. $225 shipped, quite a bit less than I paid. As you can see form the current pic, it's pretty much the same condition as I got it. I'll post it in the HESM if no one is interested here. Still have the original box and paperwork.

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You should post it on his FB page, dudes there have been waiting 2-3 years for theirs so I'm sure they'd be all over that...

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kaltesherz posted:

You should post it on his FB page, dudes there have been waiting 2-3 years for theirs so I'm sure they'd be all over that...

If I had a FB account!

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I am working on a second article about the historical and current uses of a chronometer/military field/pilot’s watch (I was lucky to have a former IDF paratrooper and associate editor facilitate one on the TSAR over at Gear Patrol).

So far, I’ve run through the following:

1) Timing an infantry assault two an artillery barrage

2) Aerial navigation

3) Fire support and “splash” calls

4) Timing torpedoes

5) Getting burn time on time fuse, or other demo work

6) Maritime nav, like small boat inserts

 

Any others you guys can think of?

 

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I'd change #2 to just Navigation, with subsets on aviation, marine, and land nav. Therefore you don't need #6 I guess. 

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jcustisredux posted:

I am working on a second article about the historical and current uses of a chronometer/military field/pilot’s watch (I was lucky to have a former IDF paratrooper and associate editor facilitate one on the TSAR over at Gear Patrol).

So far, I’ve run through the following:

1) Timing an infantry assault two an artillery barrage

2) Aerial navigation

3) Fire support and “splash” calls

4) Timing torpedoes

5) Getting burn time on time fuse, or other demo work

6) Maritime nav, like small boat inserts

 

Any others you guys can think of?

 

Sync'ing freq-hop on comms.  Commo-windows for recon units on extended patrols/hides.

CRAMBONE posted:

Does anyone know anything about this watch? 

Also got the guy bringing me some Dosty watches to look at. 

Looks like a Poljot Shturmanskie Soviet pilot’s watch

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Thanks.

I was drifting around on the Marathon site and caught this interesting Israeli-commissioned piece: https://www.marathonwatch.com/...-automatic-jdd-yamam

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Who is the Go To Guy for watch Battery replacement / pressure testing?

I have a Traser that needs a new battery and tested.  I did send it to Subterfuge/Artifice/Alex a few years ago and he was great, but I've noticed he hasn't logged onto here since around April.  

Is he still in business? 

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ianq posted:



I have a Traser that needs a new battery and tested.  I did send it to Subterfuge/Artifice/Alex a few years ago and he was great, but I've noticed he hasn't logged onto here since around April.  

Is he still in business? 

 

I don't speak for him, and he's been VERY good to me in the past, over what was a small transaction (in terms of the great work he does, and the funds I had available to expend). 

That being said I follow him on the Insta and he's very very busy, with what appears (based on the comments on his posts) to still be a large backorder of work and some unhappy customers. 

Again, I'm not a spokesman for Alex, just sharing info. He's still in business for sure. 

 

 

 

 

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kaltesherz posted:
CRAMBONE posted:

Does anyone know anything about this watch? 

Also got the guy bringing me some Dosty watches to look at. 

Looks like a Poljot Shturmanskie Soviet pilot’s watch

So should I have bought it? 

And I need to get a Russian watch repaired. Does anyone have any recommendations for people to send it to in the U.S.? 

Poljot seems to be considered one of the better Russian watch companies, but that's like bragging you're the smartest kid on the short bus. Still, they're collectible and pretty neat, plus pretty inexpensive compared to other mechanical watches. 

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ianq posted:

Who is the Go To Guy for watch Battery replacement / pressure testing?

I have a Traser that needs a new battery and tested. ...

Battery replacements are pretty easy.  I’m guessing the Traser has a steel plate back with four screws?  You’ll need a jewelers screwdriver and silicone grease.  A super-fine, watchmakers, needle nose pliers, and a bulb air blower would help.

When you open it up, and after you swap out the battery, take off the rubber caseback gasket.  Picking up the gasket is easier with the super fine needle nose pliers.  Clean out the slot it sits in, and the gasket as well.  Then apply a thin coating of silicone grease around the gasket and re-seat it.  Place the caseback down as gently as you can to prevent any twisting of the gasket.  Then tighten the screws down, alternating as you go like lug nuts on a wheel.

There’s this for Traser battery changes:

https://w w w .survivalmonkey.com/threads/traser-watch-battery-replacement.35611/

For the pressure testing, it’s easy and cheap to make your own 100m pressure tester:

https://forums.watchuseek.com/...r-%2440-4319282.html

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Any other suggestions for Seiko service?  Seeing that Subterfuge appears to be very very busy.....local place quoted me $125 to clean and lube my SKX007 which seemed very excessive for what they were saying needed to be done. (which was just to clean and lube it)??????

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adh posted:

Any other suggestions for Seiko service?  Seeing that Subterfuge appears to be very very busy.....local place quoted me $125 to clean and lube my SKX007 which seemed very excessive for what they were saying needed to be done. (which was just to clean and lube it)??????

 

adh posted:

Any other suggestions for Seiko service?  Seeing that Subterfuge appears to be very very busy.....local place quoted me $125 to clean and lube my SKX007 which seemed very excessive for what they were saying needed to be done. (which was just to clean and lube it)??????

Considering a brand new movement for it is $45, at most, and it’s easily a half hour job to swap it out, there a pretty good rate for the guy.  For that price, motor city watch works above might be able to put in an NH36 movement with hand winding and hacking capability.  The parts to do that (crown and movement) are about $70 total.

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I had my TSAR serviced and battery replaced five years ago, for like $65 tops.  For  A quote of $125, that guy must have been sniffing too much solvent at his repair table.

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jcustisredux posted:

I had my TSAR serviced and battery replaced five years ago, for like $65 tops.  For  A quote of $125, that guy must have been sniffing too much solvent at his repair table.

Mechanical movements like the 007 are a bitch to service and nothing like a quartz. The movement is removed, disassembled, cleaned, relubed, reassembled and retimed. Depending on the skill level and issues that come up, that takes anywhere from 4-8 hours. And if any small parts are broken during this (remember, they're fucking TINY and fragile) they're replaced out of pocket by the watch maker.

For a 007, a movement swap is way cheaper and easier. 

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Yeah I'm still trying to find someone to send my Traser to. Artifice did it last time for about $35. I don't really trust anyone around here locally so far that I found either. And I definitely don't trust myself to do it. 😉

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jcustisredux posted:

I had my TSAR serviced and battery replaced five years ago, for like $65 tops.  For  A quote of $125, that guy must have been sniffing too much solvent at his repair table.

Not sniffing glue... It’s a matter of quartz vs automatic.  If you just want a watch that accurately tells the time, quartz is the way to go.  Far cheaper and easier to service.  

Automatic watches should be obsolete, they are not as accurate as quartz watches (for the most part), more expensive, more complicated, and harder to service and repair.  But, they are awesomely complicated.  

If you are bored and want to appriciate the value of an automatic watch, even a relatively cheap one like a Seiko SKX (~150$), google “seiko skx service” and watch the videos.   Wow is that intricate!  I am terrified to try that on my watch, so I plan on waiting til it dies, replace the movement, and then refurb the old one.    

Watch that vid then laugh the next time someone says Ruger Mk1-3 pistols are too hard to reassemble.  

One more item to consider between quartz and autos: the movement (heart of the watch)  from the 900$ ish Marathon TSAR is the ETA F06, a Swiss, 3 jewel, quartz movement, can be bought for 22$.    Compare that with a seiko skx, where a replacement movement is 50-60$.  Or a Rolex 3135 where you will pay 2k$ for just the movement!    

 

I have often found myself asking "what is a 'good' quartz movement?"  After all, I do belive that they are much more durable and accurate.  But, the cost should then be lower than I find that they are.  I can get a automatic Seiko for less than most of the G-Shocks, as an example.  My Maathonis a great watch and I like it, but it certainly is not the price paid whne compared to some others.  That being said, I'd like to assemple a watch for myself and have found that the parts are super pricey.  The case is often much more than just pruchasing a whole watch.  Obvioulsy, I am in the learning curve, but I have emotions and needs. 

What are your needs?  

What must the watch be able to do?   Accuracy requirement? Submersible depth?   How rough will you be on it?   Do you need back lighting (indiglo), or are glowing hands enough?  Is shine an issue?  (Are you a hsld sneaky type). Do you want battery power or solar (since you don’t want an auto)?  Does style matter?  How much are you willing to spend?  

Personally I am fan of seiko divers as they are pretty dang durable, are user serviceable (with a few tools), many models can be modified to make them look however you want and are pretty stylish on their own.    My skx009 (auto) has been on my wrist most days and nights (except for upscale events, diners out, etc) since 2011.   It’s lasted through 2 years on a ship (where everything is metal) and multiple room renovations with assorted power tools, with only a few small scratches on the crystal.   

At 250$ you can get a seiko Prospex ska371, which is a kinetic (movement powered quartz, no battery).

If you are willing to spend 850-1k you can get a Seiko Tuna (google “seiko sbbn”)  which is large, practical, durable to say the least, and is an iconic dive watch.   

As to the lack of build-it-yourself quartz watches, most people who get into watches don’t really like simple quartz movements.  The seiko 5s and skx are the ar-15/Ford F-150 of watches.   There are parts everywhere.   Google “seiko skx mods” and see what people have created.   

This moment I am wearing a seiko snzh57 (auto) that I just got and am about to tear into, replace the strap, hands, dial and maybe crystal to look like a blancsbain 50 fathoms.   Why not buy the actual 50fathoms?  Because I can’t stomach wearing 10k on my wrist.  

If you are just getting into watches, you can’t go wrong with a seiko SKX007.   Yes, it’s an auto.   It’s not as accurate as a quartz and you might lose a minute or so a week.  But is durable, damn good looking and can be worn in the field with a rubber strap or with a metal or leather strap can be worn with a suit.  

Long story short, watches are somewhat like carry guns. Some people don’t wear them.  Some people have one and that’s all they want.   Some people have multiple based on weather, activity, regional threat, outfit for the day, mood, phase of the moon, etc. As you start to take an interest in them, your first probably won’t be your last.  Get a good starter watch without breaking the bank and see what direction it takes you. 

Didn’t mean to go on that long, my bad.  

okiwen posted:

I have often found myself asking "what is a 'good' quartz movement?"  After all, I do belive that they are much more durable and accurate.  But, the cost should then be lower than I find that they are.  I can get a automatic Seiko for less than most of the G-Shocks, as an example.  My Maathonis a great watch and I like it, but it certainly is not the price paid whne compared to some others.  That being said, I'd like to assemple a watch for myself and have found that the parts are super pricey.  The case is often much more than just pruchasing a whole watch.  Obvioulsy, I am in the learning curve, but I have emotions and needs. 

For me, personally, good quartz watches are high accuracy quartzes or smooth sweep hand quartzes.  Bulova has done some, Grand Seiko has some, and Seiko has some nice mecca-quartz chronographs with a smooth chrono-seconds hand.  Digital watches are a whole other animal and, to me at least, are purely tool watches.

For self assembly, there aren’t many quartz cases.  I’m sure you could use a Swiss quartz Ronda movement and use spacers on cases designed for ETA 2824s, but I haven’t researched that.  If you want to build your own automatic, it’ll be hard to beat the value of cheaper automatic watches like a Hamilton Khaki Field watch.  Using a 36mm sapphire case with screw down crown from ofrei, their own hands and dials, and a basic 2824 or SW200, you’re looking at about $300 for something that won’t be as nice as the Hamilton which can be had for $300 if you look around.

Now, you can go higher in case quality to an Ickler case from the German watch shop.  Their cases are about $250 by themselves but are great quality.  Then add in an Elabore grade movement and hands and you’re already close to $500.  Then you need to worry about the dial.  I’ve found that Ickler cases generally are designed for odd diameter dials, so you’ll need to figure out a way to make your own dial.  I’m currently experimenting with that.  But after making a dial, I’ll be in the hole for probably close to $700 for a good quality homemade watch.  That will be decent value as it could compete with a $1k watch, but the time involved will far exceed $300 value.  Homemade watches should purely be looked as as a challenge and hobby.  You can’t compete with a manufacturer’s economy of scale. It’s definitely not a value proposition.

But if you do want to start assembling your own watch, start with Ofrei.  They have everything you need, and it’s reasonbly affordable and reasonable quality.

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I've been taking a real hard look at Scurfa Watches lately and REALLY like them.  I am about to pull the trigger on their Bell Diver 1 (Auto) but keep trying to talk myself in the cheaper Diver 1 Quartz version... but I just keep going back to the Auto.  

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