I've been meaning to write up a watch stud-board post for a while now. I have 3 watches that I wear regularly, a Marathon TSAR, a Traser H3, and a Casio G-Shock. All have positives and negatives and this be helpful to some of you if you are considering any of these. I'll start with the oldest first.




Model: Traser H3

Features: Tritium inserts on hour and minute hands, above each numeral, and on the rotating
bezel. Bezel adjustable in 1 minute clicks. Date window at 3 o'clock.

Price Paid: $125 (Purchased Dec 2004)

Positives:
- Bright tritium inserts - great when camping.
- Acceptable accuracy - loses about 2 seconds per month.
- Lightweight

Negatives:
- Broke one of the plungers twice, the first time overseas (India). Thankfully a coworker
found a local jeweler who could fix it.
- Numbers wearing off of bezel - this seemed to be caused by high-deet bug spray.
- Dead battery after 2.5 years.
- Scratched crystal in first year.
- Fit and finish not up to the level of the Marathon.
- Crown does not screw down.

Comments:
This was my daily watch until I got the Marathon. I'll wear this only occasionally now.




Model: Casio G-Shock

Features: Solar battery, waterproof, stopwatch, multiple time zones, backlight.

Price Paid: $60 (approx - gift Dec 2005)

Positives:
- Rugged. I can bang the shit out of this watch.
- Value for the price.

Negatives:
- Accuracy - loses about 2 seconds per week.
- Bulky - this is a BIG watch.

Comments:
I typically wear this when hiking, shooting, swimming, doing work around the house or any other physical activity.





Model: Marathon T-SAR

Features: Tritium inserts on hour and minute hands, above each numeral, and on the rotating
bezel. Bezel adjustable in quarter minute clicks. Date window between 4 and 5 o'clock. Screw down crown.

Price Paid: $325 (purchased used 2007) Retails for about $600 with the metal band.

Positives:
- Accurate. I've had it a month and it has not lost any time yet.
- Attractive. The fit and finish on this watch is exceptional.

Negatives:
- Heavier than my other watches.

Comments:
I now wear this daily for work.



I used www.time.gov to test accuracy. I typically check my watches once a month or so and reset them as appropriate. If I could only afford one watch, I would buy the Casio G-Shock. This is a go-anywhere watch. I would pass on the Traser. The Marathon is a beautiful well-made timepiece and IMO is worth the $600+ new (with metal band). I am not in the position to invest in a Rolex or Omega, so it will suit sme fine.

-Paul D.

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Originally posted by M4Guru:
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I am not in the position to invest in a Rolex


Don't bother. Mine keeps track of time like a narcoleptic alzheimers patient with an affinity for moonshine and vicodin.


+1 on don't bother.
Dad broke the crystal on his Rolex three times... At over $1k a pop (first one was free) he found something a little more durable.


I like that Marathon.

I'm running a Momo Competitione (2006 model) self winding and a Citizen Eco-tech solar powered. Neither are HSLD, but they tell me the time. Smile
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Originally posted by M4Guru:
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I am not in the position to invest in a Rolex


Don't bother. Mine keeps track of time like a narcoleptic alzheimers patient with an affinity for moonshine and vicodin.


End of discussion vis a vis Rolexes. They owe their advertising company HUGE kudos. Mine will lose up to an hour a day and has been to the Land of the Big Chocolate Bar more times than I care to remember. Make mine Breitling.

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I notice that the H3 looks like my LumiNox other than the different company markings on the face. I have had my watch for over 10 years and have only had to change the battery one time. The crystal has a couple of small scratches, but it keeps almost perfect time. I believe it was money well spent.

Kandahar Air Field (KAF) Afghanistan...

On the Luminox note, I have one of the SEAL Luminox (Gay, but the one that didn't say Navy SEALS on it was about $150 more..I'll risk posing for anyone who actually notices.)

The battery died after about 4 years. I had a jeweler replace it, which he did for free cos he thought the tritium was so cool.

I quickly found out that it wasn't keeping time at all, to the tune of being several hours off in a 48hr period. I shelved it and meant to send it for service.

Flash 6 months later, I took a look at it, set it...and now it keeps time just fine. The drawer gnomes fixed it for me apparently, but I was checking it about every 30min for the first month I was wearing it again. Aside from that strange reliability anomaly, I've been happy with it. I'm still hoping to get a TSAR one of these days though.

I too have noticed a similarity between the Luminox and the Traser. Anyone know if they're related or just a common design?

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Luminox, Traser and now a few other brands, all come out of the same mold and then go to their respective companies for labeling.
They are all progeny from the original Stocker and Yale mil spec version.

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Now, not that I'm in any position to experience this firsthand (I could never afford a Rolex), but I do love watches (another expensive hobby that I really shouldn't have) and I've read that the desire from owning a Rolex or other manual or perpetual movement watch is simply the fascination of the workmanship. However, if the damn thing can't keep time worth a darn, that's an expensive intricate paperweight! I have a small face, gold and stainless early 90's Omega SeaMaster Professional that I bought as a quartz . It keeps time nicely, but if I did it again I'd opt for the automatic movement. New batteries in any watch like this is expensive since they have to do a pressure test also, and I assume they replace a seal? It's not like replacing a battery in a Casio. More to the tune of $35.00 - $60.00 a shot.

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The one thing i reccomand for anyone with arolex is an automatic winder. My old man has had a rolex for a few years. obviously he doesnt wear it in uniform so when he does in service it sits unworn for a week and stops tickin'. So i bought him an automatic winder that works similar to a metronome and he has never had a problem since. Im looking or a link now

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I am not in the position to invest in a Rolex


Rolex is a mass-produced watch (they make over a million a year). During the 80's Rolex went marketing ape-shit and then started jacking the prices up on their watches, they made themselves "fashionable" like those $300 jeans people buy.
You really want to have a fit, send it off to Rolex to get fixed, have a tube of KY ready.

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I've had my TSAR now for almost a year and I am very happy with it. It's my daily and I'm using a Zulu band but want to pick up the Stainlesses band here soon. It is a heavy watch but that is one of the "pros" IMHO.

I also have a Tag that I wear for Weddings, Funerals Anniversaries etc.
Good info on the TSAR, thanks. That's what I'm looking at to replace my current Traser. Smile
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For the price of a Rolex, at least the ones that I like, you could have an M1A Scout with a Short Dot. You could have 2 really nice mid-grade ARs and a new Glock. You could buy several cases of ammo for a class, and go jack yourself a Rolex, being the pirate that you are. There are other brands out there worth considering. Omega, and Breitling are still making watches intended for hard use. If you need a cost effective watch that gives you ALOT of bang for your buck and still looks bad@$$, look into a Seiko SKX009 Diver's watch. They list for $3-400, but can be had on Amazon for $150 approx. I mentioned this watch in the "Best 3 Pieces of Gear" thread, in 2nd Line.

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well, some news from the chocolate bars land...
First, I had a traser H3 during about 10 years without a problem. Something broke in it, and they replaced it for free...though the warranty had expired! I mean the entire watch! (I than was able to make a good deal for a titanium version) Great service. It is the original design, made in Switzerland. They had to find another name to be able to export them (so luminox) because the tritium thing in them is considered as military good and no go for export as such (Swiss laws...).
A real Rolex is a highly reliable piece of refined mechanic engineering. it comes with a certificate origin and a chronograph test. of course it will loose a few seconds every month, but it is normal for an automatic watch...I'm really surprised from your bad experiences...really!
Duke's right on the bang for the buck of the Seiko. In terms of keeping time, they're at the top of the heap. One day I will have an Omega or three, but until that time, I'm happy with the used Seiko I got on Ebay for $40. I need a replacement bracelet for it, since the one on it isn't factory, but I can beat the hell out of it and not feel too bad. The face is a virtual replica of the collectible 1970 automatic that my watchmaker buddy told me not to wear day to day. This same watchmaker buddy is the same one who told me the watch I splurged big time on, a Movado, was in fact made in Hong Kong (opened the back and showed me, even though the face says made is the land of cool little knives with bottle openers built in). Wish I'd known him first. He'll also confirm that Rolex watches are jewelry, not time pieces.

In a few months I'm gonna be back on a new watch kick, and will have to get a Pepsi-dial Seiko dive watch. Bad Karhma has had one for something on the order of 15 years, and it still runs like a champ.

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It's no longer on the market, but I've got a Citizen Titanium Eco-Drive Chrono, I bought it 10 years ago for about $350 mail order, and it's kept time like a champ, never had to reset it unless I stopped wearing it for a time i.e. a week and it didn't get any sunlight.

Looking online at the updated Ti Eco-Drives, they seem to have a 4 year power reserve. Pricing is still about the same $400-600 retail, $250-400 street.

Mine survived daily saltwater baths with no ill effect.

I don't wear a watch much anymore because I just use the clock in my phone.

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I run a Solar G-Shock with black "The Band" strap. An older Luminox "SEAL" watch with black face and black "The Band" strap. Problem with the Luminox is the bezel numbers come off easily when scratched or bumped. Mine an a couple of friends all had the same issue.

My baby is a Rolex GMT Master II. I wanted this particular Rolly for many years. No issues with it's operation. Sending it in for a"tune up" scares me though. I also got a Rolex Green leather auto-winder from the girlfriend a couple years ago. That's where it sits during deployments. Stuttgart Per-Diem rocks!

Interested in the Suunto X-Lander Special all black Edition. Any reviews or information?

My photo-foo is weak but thats not how I make my living. Wink Rolexes ARE made in China right? Confused
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well, some news from the chocolate bars land...
First, I had a traser H3 during about 10 years without a problem. Something broke in it, and they replaced it for free...though the warranty had expired! I mean the entire watch! (I than was able to make a good deal for a titanium version) Great service. It is the original design, made in Switzerland. They had to find another name to be able to export them (so luminox) because the tritium thing in them is considered as military good and no go for export as such (Swiss laws...).
A real Rolex is a highly reliable piece of refined mechanic engineering. it comes with a certificate origin and a chronograph test. of course it will loose a few seconds every month, but it is normal for an automatic watch...I'm really surprised from your bad experiences...really!


Hey Swiss brother. I'm definately dealing with a real Rolex and not some Hong Kong copy. For me, it has just been horrible. But, it hasn't led me away from your country's watches. 4 Breitlings and my pride and joy, my Dad's Patek Phillippe, which just makes other watches seem like a bad joke.

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Nice watches, I've had my eye on a SAR since they came out, sooooo nice.

For folks looking for a great quality swiss (automatic) watch I highly reccomend Ollech & Wajs I've had mine for more than two years, it's tough, totally accurate and for less than $300, unbeatable in terms of value. I really liked dealing with West Coast Time very knowledgable and great customer service.

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