and here I was staring at wheelguns at the last gun show I attended <sigh> :

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SilencerCo Turns Heads with RoboCop-Like 9mm Handgun

 

LAS VEGAS — SilencerCo turned heads at this year’s SHOT Show in Las Vegas with its latest prototype of the Maxim 9, a futuristic-looking 9mm pistol that sort of resembles the gun from the “RoboCop” movies.

“This is the world’s first integrally suppressed 9mm handgun that is hearing safe with all types of 9mm ammunition,” Jason Schauble, a marketing official for the company, said on Monday at range day the Boulder Rifle & Pistol Club outside Vegas. “It’s definitely the coolest thing you’ll see this week. I guarantee it.”

Designers indeed looked to futuristic science-fiction movies for ideas, including “RoboCop” and “Judge Dredd,” but ultimately settled on a unique design with a thick, rectangular front end and the operating mechanism in the rear of the weapon, Schauble said.

“I’ve got a 3.5-inch fixed barrel, so it’s still accurate — I can still get the velocity I need,” he said. “But I’ve got as much room up front to suppress the actual noise.”

When asked what makes the design unique, Schauble said, “People have done integrally-supressed pistols before — the Chinese, the Russians — but they did it with a .32-caliber cartridge, which is not going to kill anything, or it’s a you-can-only-use-this-bullet, right? — I can only use a subsonic, light round, at 20 feet in close range or something like that. So we made it so I can use 124-grain-plus-p-plus jacketed hollow point, which is the loudest 9mm pistol cartridge in this configuration.”

The weapon uses Glock magazines and can accommodate any type of after-market sights, he said. While a previous prototype was unveiled at a product launch event in September, this second version is “much closer to what our final iteration will look like,” he said.

SilencerCo, based in West Valley City in Utah, plans to ship the product later this year, with an expected retail price of between $1,500 and $2,000.

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While cool, it appears to lack an ability to mount a light. Which is a feature I would want on a full size pistol.

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It says they working on that in the video

 

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Ah, I couldn't watch the video, being at work. Good to know though, thanks.

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The ability to mount a red-dot on the fixed barrel is the shit, and something we've talked about on LF before. 

I hope they offer a direct screw-on mount (for RMR)as opposed to a rail mount to get the dot as low as possible. If it is reliable this design would even be interesting un-suppressed with a longer bbl simply as a host pistol for a dot that doesn't move with the slide.

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dan187 posted:

Ah, I couldn't watch the video, being at work. Good to know though, thanks.

Ah. He says they looking at either attaching a rail or preferably making a "groove" in the suppressor base to allow mounting. It'll be rather far below the bore but it'll be there.

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Really cool.

But, I would need the ability to mount a RMR and a light before I would be interested in looking in my piggy bank for funds....

If this is the future...I like it. With the ability to run an RMR, a 500 lumen+ light and a laser this could be the ultimate duty gun answer for LE. I hope they are successful and other companies take note.  

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The above modular configuration is the one that'll take the 124grn +P+ stuff - the shorter configuration wouldn't be too big to (duty) holster, but with a light/laser & an RMR it'd still be like a cereal box with a pistol grip.

Granted, it'd be a reduced signature cereal box that spits 9mm bullets that won't pop your eardrums.

Mounting a RDS on a mount that extends further rearward would make holster design less arduous.

I really like the fact it uses COTS Glock sights & mags.

A fixed barrel implies better accuracy compared to a Browning-style (et al) lockup.

Intriguing, to say the least.

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Reconfigurable for ammunition type. Subsonic obviously gets a shorter overall length. They've built it to adequately suppress the hottest +P+ loadings.

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And for those of us in the audience that wanted to have an RDS and a light… 

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I imagine that light switching for currently manufactured models might be an issue.

 

Now, they're just dick-teasing:

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Part of me is cautiously optimistic about this, the other is rather exuberant. 

Kind of like:

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Does one activate that light with their erection? How would a female activate it without the use of strap-on devices?

It is futuristic and cool looking. Hope it runs well.  Kinda looks like an X2, though.  

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The super little  Surefire Xc1 weaponlight is too small for that & a handheld would probably be a better option with the 2 handed Rogers Technique.  

The Maxum 9 is wearing on me 2 ...  Should be a big hit @ SHOT range day ...

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dead or alive, one will come home with me.

I saw what you did there.

And I'd buy that for a dollar. 

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I'm pretty convinced that this type of sidearm will be the future of duty guns, maybe not this one...but something like it. With a light, RDS and laser integrated better it'd be hard to beat. 

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I think in 30 years we will look back on the Maxim9 as we would look at a gen1 Glock 17 currently.

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I think in 30 years we will look back on the Maxim9 as we would look at a gen1 Glock 17 currently.

Only going to happen if suppressors come off NFA.

i think intergrally suppressed duty rifles will move right along with suppersed pistols becoming the future standard. 

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I am on the fence on this.  Will it replace my Glock 19 for everyday carry no.  Could the smaller configuration become part of my Get out of dodge setup....maybe.  Especially with a Glock 26 as backup. 

The smaller version seems to be about an inch longer than a Glock 34.  That is pretty cool in the grand scale of things. 

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The Internet is abuzz about massive layoffs at SilencerCo, and the implications that might have for the success/failure of the Hearing Protection Act....

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I could see something like the shorter version actually becoming a duty pistol if it works well and the price isn't completely outrageous.  Maybe not immediately, but someone would buy it.  

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The Internet is abuzz about massive layoffs at SilencerCo, and the implications that might have for the success/failure of the Hearing Protection Act....

It is apparently quite true.  Over 100 layoffs.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6...encerCo-Layoffs.html

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I do not follow the various discussions of this having implications for the HPA. Not only logic, but others saying there was a rush before 41F took effect, and before the election, now there is not. Less work means less need for the growth employees. Right? Do tell if not. 

Read threads linked for discussions of how they were fired, senior management styles, as I think that might be causing some of the internet heartache. 

This seems like some other boom/bust industries I have worked in, would have been nice if they could have hired a lot of the growth folks with the understanding they are not all necessarily permanent due to market conditions. I have worked lots of places where a big pile of people didn't have a job at the drop of a hat due to loss of a contract or three. 

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Looking at this logically, I don't think the layoffs have a much to do with the HPA.  Here is why.  Allegedly, and it makes sense, there is a slow down in suppressor purchases as people are waiting to see if the HPA passes and they can walk with their suppressors at the time of purchase.  I can see that being a PITA to manufacturers who are trying to stay in business and depend on an expected volume of sales to keep things going.  But is that reason to lay off 100 employees?  If the HPA passes, manufacturers can count on increased sales.  We all know that.  I can't count the number of people who would buy them if they didn't have to wait 9 months to pick it up.  Saving $200 per purchase essentially means, buy 3 suppressors, get the 4th for free.  

If the HPA doesn't pass, business as usual.  Same number of sales, same need for same number of employees.  Laying off employees is totally inconsistent with a prediction it fails.

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If my dealer is an example of the suppressor industry, sales have fallen through the floor since 41F.

Everybody with the means bought like every suppressor they thought they would ever want prior to 41F (myself included).  Those stuck in areas where the chief LEO wouldn't sign off had saved their pennies, and were ready to buy the second 41F went through, so there was one huge surge of sales, then, nothing.

If the national trends match my local ones - my dealer has sold like 3 suppressors since the 41F craze (he sold a ludicrous number before).

If this is the case nationwide, it makes sense why SiCo is laying off - they are finally just getting caught up with 41F surge (they finally sent the Salvo that I bought in June just this past week), and are now staring at a completely stagnant market.  Everybody on the fence and waiting.

For me, it's business as usual; I tell everybody the same thing - if you want one, just go buy it; if they change the rules, they will give you tax credit, so you're not risking any money.  Even if that part of the bill doesn't go through - so what.  I have never looked back on a single suppressor purchase and thought about the price of the item...invariably, it has been more like 'I wish I would have gotten that thing way sooner.'  Meanwhile, if you're standing around with your johnson in your hand waiting, and the HPA fails, now you get to wait way longer, and you haven't even gotten the clock ticking.  Another thing, if the HPA passes; there will likely be a rush on suppressors, a big one.  If you already have yours purchased, you just go take it home; you're not scrapping with the animals over whats on the shelves.

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Hey, I keep seeing this being in stock back in the states.  Is there any benefit to getting this over saying a short suppressor and a Crye gun clip?  Good thing with being overseas these things don't burn a whole in my pocket.   But I have HKs and Glocks with threaded barrels.  Was looking at a AAC tirant-S (seems out of stock) on a Glock 19, it's just over 9 inches Total.  

Still miffed at Surefire for their yes were bringing that out then do not 3 lug adaptor for their Ryder9. Saw the are going going to have a surefire convertible can full to K version but still longer than the AAC.  Might burst my AAC cherry. 

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Guess I'm snooty. I like my guns to look like guns. Not a taser or airsoft manga squirter that's too big to holster...

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CAMedic posted:

Guess I'm snooty. I like my guns to look like guns...

Yup, snooty old man Lots of people said this almost word for word in the 1980s when various boxy plastic things appeared on the scene. I still know old men who turn their noses up at anything not pretty much a blued 1911 or spinny gun. 

I also think these look weird, but am willing to believe it may look normal in 10 years. 

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I've always been one that puts function above fashion.  

I want to get my mitts on one before I commit the coin, but, the way it looks now, more likely than not I'll be adding one to my armory.  

It might be the inspiration I need to go from .40 back to 9mm. That, and the arthritis, of course. 

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Anybody got their mitts on one of these? Does the blowback design add much to perceived recoil? I dig the non-reciprocating red dot mount, interested in the rest of this thing. 

 

 

 

 

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Shameless necropost. 

Along with a few other whisper pickles, I bought one. 

With the addition of a light, it will be configured thusly: 
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I plan on tasking it with nightstand gun duties, as well as well as accompanying me on hunts (in some manner of tanker holster yet to be determined).

And now, we wait... Form 4s are taking around 5 to 6 months, from what I’m told.

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Keep posting, holster especially will be interesting.

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Shameless necropost. 


And now, we wait... Form 4s are taking around 5 to 6 months, from what I’m told.

I am sitting at 7 months on mine.....

Hopefully that will mean mine is about up.

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I am super interested in hearing about these after you guys get some solid trigger time with them. 

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