they had some with hard soles but they sucked, on the pre-production models. They were like high tech's but not as comfy. The soles they are supposed to have on the production models (the last I heard) are similar to the GSG-9's. In my opinion, people who buy the GSG-9's are quite dedicated. I wear them but they are free. I only buy quality gear and for the price I expect the boots to last longer than about 4 months... I think the oakleys sho some promise but I don't know if I'm ready to shell out $150.00 for a disposable pair of boots.
At one point there was a plan to have a whole new family of boots with the same sole. It was going to be an assault boot, a wet ops boots (like the NRS boot), a Danner repalcement and a Jungle boot. They were all going to have the Bomba sole by Vibram. Some of the companies were having trouble getting the sole. In the case of the Oakley, they decided it wasn't sticky/durable enough. Consequently, they went to a propietary sole. It looks more like a "traditional" Oakley sole, if there is such a thing. At least when you look at it, you will say, "yep, that is Oakley".

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Thanks for the info GG,
A high end brand name "disposeable" boot that is not resoleable, perhaps an Oakley "version" of the Adidas GSG9 boot....yuck!! Looks more like it will follow that of the Adidas,Hi-tec boots; probably more suited to urban swat/tactical ops, rather than humping through the bush.
I'll just stick with my Matterhorns, and Wellcos!
First off...the Oakley boots are ASSAULT boots NOT combat boots.
What application are you looking for boots to fulfill?
Assault boots? I just got a pair of Bates Falcons. Similar to GSG-9s except beefier. I don't expect the leather to flake off the uppers. Under 100 bills. A heavy hitter (don't want to name drop) wore a pair for four months in A-stan and they held up. I will keep you posted.

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Originally posted by GG:
Hi-Tecs? YUCK...
If you respect your feet then do something nice for them and buy a decent pair of boots. Hi-Tecs suck!

Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid



Well GG, I'm bein using them now close to 5 years and they do well for me...Still, gotta remember that I'm in Gear Limbo...

"There's No Problem That Can't Be Solved With Enough C4 and The Right Paperwork."
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Originally posted by BillP:
A high end brand name "disposeable" boot that is not resoleable, perhaps an Oakley "version" of the Adidas GSG9 boot....yuck!! Looks more like it will follow that of the Adidas,Hi-tec boots; probably more suited to urban swat/tactical ops, rather than humping through the bush.
I'll just stick with my Matterhorns, and Wellcos!


This is not and never was intended to be a field boot. It is a tool that fills a role that many people need, it is nothing more than that. Dr. J would never wear Ski boots on the basketball court; but that does not mean his name-brand Solomons are not good. Choose these if you have a need for this type of boot; if not, Wellco and Matterhorn are each good choices.

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This is not and never was intended to be a field boot. It is a tool that fills a role that many people need, it is nothing more than that. . Choose these if you have a need for this type of boot; if not, Wellco and Matterhorn are each good choices.

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Point taken,I agree 100% that this is a specific type of boot, suited to certain types of activities, and not others. I see that now! I have in the past worn both Hi-tecs, and the Adidas GSG9 boot(have yet to try the Bates brand!), and unfortunately as comfy as I found them(mostly the Adidas), the soles lack of durability/longevity left me a little disappointed. The fact that I could not resole the Adidas(considering how much they cost!),to extend their service to me has somewhat made me sceptical(..OK,abit bitter!)I guess my bias was showing abit much, sorry for that! frown
LOL, Dr. J slam-dunking, while wearing Ski-boots, now there's an ad image!
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Originally posted by GG:
Assault boots? I just got a pair of Bates Falcons. Similar to GSG-9s except beefier. I don't expect the leather to flake off the uppers. Under 100 bills. A heavy hitter (don't want to name drop) wore a pair for four months in A-stan and they held up. I will keep you posted.



I just got a pair also. Very comfy, and so far have held up well (more use on than off road). I expected the soles to show more wear than they have, considering they're very soft and sticky.

"Securisis Per Concordis"
The addidas are indead re-soleable. I know several people who have done just that. The main problem with the addidas, IMHO is that they are not built to be durable. I know that they are assault boots but I still would like to get at least 6 months of wear out of them. This is only my experience so others may vary. I wear my addidas pretty much every day when working and don't shine or take care of them in any way except for knocking the mud off if I happen to step in a puddle. I don't delibrately wear them outdoors (in the woods) I have jungle boots or danners for that stuff. Someone else said it here already, boots are tools. I like to have the best boots that I can get because I have one pair of feet for the rest of my life. Some may call me crazy but I always tell fellow soldiers that if you can only spend money on one thing make it the best pair of boots that you can get. For my money I don't like the addidas. I could buy 2 pair of welcos for the same amount, a good pair of Danners or even 3 pair of the Bates lookalikes (I have no personal experience with these) if I was so inclined. I think there are many other better options for the money. But if you are hell bent on them and money is not an object, they are pretty darn comfy. And oh by the way give me a private e-mail because my christmas list is ready for approval... big grin big grin
Geronimo,
So the GSG-9s are resoleable! When I went to get mine resoled, the same place btw where I get all my other boots worked on, they said that it wasn't possible, stated a few reasons that I cannot recall right now!
I agree with you, that a good pair of boots should be able to last for more than at least 1/2 a year, provided how often/hard you wear them!
I am debating on whether to buy the Bates falcons, or wait until Brad has the Oakleys in stock, and hear what the reviews for them are!
I only have experience around military bases with the resoling options. The guy right outside of the front gate at Ft. Campbell has no problem whatsoever re-soling the addidas GSG-9's and I have several friends who have had it done. It may be that you just need to find someone who is willing to give it a shot but I know they will do it at Bragg also. I don't know of anyone who has had the infamous sole blowout/delamination problems that plague many other boots.
Geronimo,
Thank you for the heads up on the GSG-9 resole info! I have had that gent outside of Ft. Campbell do some excellent work on boots I've sent him, when I was down there awhile back.
I unfortunately tossed out the GSG-9s sometime ago! Now on what you've told me, I have some more boot repair options available!!
If you can manage, at your convenience, can you please forward me the contact info for the guy outside of Ft. Campbell &/or Bragg, I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks
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Originally posted by BillP:
If you can manage, at your convenience, can you please forward me the contact info for the guy outside of Ft. Campbell &/or Bragg, I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks


This is the address for the little Korean shop outside of Gate Four at Fort Campbell -- they do good work:

EAGLE SHOE REPAIR
16350 FORT CAMPBELL BLVD
OAK GROVE, KY 42262
(270) 439-6334

I had them put a vibram sole on my issue Jungle Boots a few years ago. I probably put 5000 miles on them that first summer and fit and finish were superb.

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Brad has been kind enough to post some pics that i am unable to do right now.Be patient- they will be up shortly.
We have been wearing the Oakley Assault Boots for about 2 months now. I personally have been wearing them everyday, working, PT'ing, traveling and so forth.
They are comfortable, no doubt about it. The new sole is light years ahead of the nubby on the originals, and works very well on the advertised surfaces.They worl well on steel decks, aluminum surfaces, tile and marble floors.
I can't yet vouch for durability as they are relatively new. However, they have not delaminated in water as the adidas boots were wont to do.
Having worked in a place where we were issued two pairs of gsg9's every 6 months, i'll state that the Oakley's are superior. It isn't even close.
The gsg9's were great boots in the 70's, and while technology has advanced, those boots haven't (OK, just in price).
They certainly didn't last very long- which is why we replaced them that often.

Remember that both of these are "assault" boots, not boots made for humping.

If your job description includes a HUMPEX that is a 10K cross compartment with a full ruck, you probably need something else.

S/F

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