Phone Call From Randall

Via the NYT:

April 6, 1997
THE BILLBOARDS OF MADISON AVENUE
My Favorite Store: Randall Made Knives

By Padgett Powell

In a vestigial orange grove in Orlando, Fla., is a converted cinder-block ranch-style house, now the factory and shop for Randall Made Knives, arguably the best -- handmade knives in the world.

Let us hazard that you do not need or want a best-known, maybe best handmade knife in the world. You merely want to see what all the flibber is about, maybe talk to Gary Randall, the proprietor, who bought this 60-year-old business from his father, Bo.

And something happens. You are in the presence of the unavoidably authentic. In a glass counter are gleaming things with elegant lines, which rather than suggesting weapons or tools of carnage fairly resonate with a solid, humming, jeweled integrity. This must be what it's like to be a bride in Tiffany's, you think, faintly out of breath and cotton-mouthy. A man appears who lets you handle the knives. He identifies them as to model number (there are 50 models) but otherwise says nothing salesmanlike. He does not have to. He does not, you eerily gather, even want to. You may not, in his view, you more eerily gather, qualify to own one of these things, somewhat as you might not qualify to own a Thoroughbred horse.

You leave with not one but three knives you do not need but must have -- the second a purer excess than the first, the third for your father-in-law and insisted upon by your 9-year-old daughter, also breathless in the face of this hard beauty. Your Visa receipt for $614.8O is in your happy pocket; the knives and their sheaths, wrapped up in white butcher's paper like sausages, lie on the car seat like diminutive but full citizens, emanating strong vapors of leather and tool steel and the promise of that which will not fail. Invincibility is in the air. You stop the car on your way off the property, get out and pick some oranges. No one will contest you. ''When Grampa dies,'' your daughter says, ''can I have his knife?''

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Joined: 1/18/03

Location: Miami

I take my sons (4 and 6) there every so often and teach them about history and heritage and good tools, and try and explain why their knives won't be done for several more years. It's kind of a sanctuary to the values of my grandpas generation and I hope it can rub off on them a bit.

----  I'm hanging out here because I don't know what I don't know and you folk have a way of showing me

I've got a #14 and a #25.  #1 and #2 are still in chain and I should be getting my letter in a year or so.

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Mark

Swear allegiance to the flag Whatever flag they offer

Never hint at what you really feel

Teach the children quietly For some day sons and daughters

Will rise up and fight while we stood still

 

Joined:  2/24/2003                          Location:  Nevada, USA

Wondering if I am missing something.   I always wanted one but then moved on to something else since what the fuck would I do with it but stare at it.  I have heard of their wait times yet I also know where I can get a No 1 or No. 14, my favorites, right now for no more than Randall would charge.  Are you guys getting special features?  I know you can get different blade lengths, carbon or stainless , etc. but they don't seem to have a ton of options beyond that.

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

HRH (Ret.) The Most Reverend Consig

 

 

 

 

 Joined: 28 Nov 2004: 0037hrs        Location: The worst run state in the U.S

Consigliere posted:

Wondering if I am missing something.   I always wanted one but then moved on to something else since what the fuck would I do with it but stare at it.  I have heard of their wait times yet I also know where I can get a No 1 or No. 14, my favorites, right now for no more than Randall would charge.  Are you guys getting special features?  I know you can get different blade lengths, carbon or stainless , etc. but they don't seem to have a ton of options beyond that.

Pick & choose options and steel choice - pretty much it. Once upon a time I owned a Combat Companion I received as a 30th birthday gift. Carried it once on a backpacking trip, then it turned into a safe queen. Several years later I got offered a bit more than was paid for it so I sold it and paid for a Hamilton watch. At least the watch saw more use. Occasionally I am tempted to order another (Mod 27 Trailblazer or Mod 26 Pathfinder).

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I've been falling so long it's like gravity's gone & I'm just floating...

I really wish I had been able to keep my past Randalls. I still have a #1 given to me by a friend 20 years ago.

My favorite is a model 8 stag ( trout and bird) 

I plan to buy another at some point as well as a 14.

Even if I never use them they are beautiful works of art.

"Without training they lack knowlege, without knowlege they lack discipline , without discipline they lack victory"

 

“Go as hard as you can, for as long as you can, and then quit.”

 

Joined: October 2, 2007

I've had some and thought they were awesome, but I ended up selling them all. My Halloran knives are more than enough for my needs. That said I have one on order for each of my kids. For some reason it seems like it is worth doing the old fashioned way for them.

----  I'm hanging out here because I don't know what I don't know and you folk have a way of showing me

Consigliere posted:

Wondering if I am missing something.   I always wanted one but then moved on to something else since what the fuck would I do with it but stare at it.  I have heard of their wait times yet I also know where I can get a No 1 or No. 14, my favorites, right now for no more than Randall would charge.  Are you guys getting special features?  I know you can get different blade lengths, carbon or stainless , etc. but they don't seem to have a ton of options beyond that.

No. I just look at it as one of the premier examples of knives available and as a manufacturer with a rich history in Central Florida. I'm not really a knife guy, but I figured if I was going to have one knife that wasn't a heirloom, it should be the one.

"Hold my beer and watch this"

553203_10151079229368982_1377848255_nHogunt [8)Hogunt [12)Hogunt [14)Hogunt [17)Hogunt [18)Hogunt [19)My No. 25 Pathfinder has seen some use.  Not much, but it was special.

 

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Mark

Swear allegiance to the flag Whatever flag they offer

Never hint at what you really feel

Teach the children quietly For some day sons and daughters

Will rise up and fight while we stood still

 

Joined:  2/24/2003                          Location:  Nevada, USA

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I understand that the quality is Old Skool, and that these are heirloom type pieces. However, this is Lightfighter:

So, are any of you actually using or carrying your Randall knives? Would you consider it? Or are these BBQ knives kinda like exquisite 1911's and highly tooled holsters, reserved for state occasions and contemplative times with close friends and excellent scotch?

I had a #14 with Border Patrol handle on my belt for the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. I mean the actual invasions, not when the Army and Marines got there...

The knife rode on my belt ready for use in both Iraq and AFG from 2001, missed 2002, but then every year from 2003-2010. I left it home when I PCS'd to Korea in 2011 so my dumbass ex-wife could liquidate it along with all of my guns in a divorce sale, while I was out of the country. There is a stupid cunt near FTCKY that purchased the knife for $100 and wouldn't sell it back. She bragged to everyone how badly she ripped off my bitter ex and took advantage of her because she didn't know shit about knives or guns. I hope that cunt dies in a fire! 

 

I'm not bitter though... 

I had my heart set on a Model 14 with a #1 hilt and a green Border Patrol handle (duh...), but always liked the blade shape and historical vibe of the Model 1. After looking at the Randall sight last night because of this thread now I see the Model 16 special fighter...beefyness of a full tang 14 with the more interesting blade shape & tang of the 1? Anything I'm missing?

I'm planning on ordering one direct so I can do the name plate thing on it...only thing left to deside on is a brass or silver hilt and blade steel. 

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

I drove down there and picked it up this morning. They open at 0700, the museum doesn't open until 1000, so I didn't get the chance to go.  Knife's beautiful. I am, unfortunately, not picture smart, so I can't post a picture here.  I had no idea what a big piece of land it's on. I'm surprised someone hasn't paid them a bunch of money for it and they move out to St. Cloud or somewhere like that.

"Hold my beer and watch this"

XTCBX posted:

I had my heart set on a Model 14 with a #1 hilt and a green Border Patrol handle (duh...), but always liked the blade shape and historical vibe of the Model 1. After looking at the Randall sight last night because of this thread now I see the Model 16 special fighter...beefyness of a full tang 14 with the more interesting blade shape & tang of the 1? Anything I'm missing?

I'm planning on ordering one direct so I can do the name plate thing on it...only thing left to deside on is a brass or silver hilt and blade steel. 

No.

The blade steel comes in Stainless Steel already.  Brass or Nickel Silver Hilt is personal taste for the "look" of the knife.  Brass is easier to clean up, while Nickel Silver is harder to polish.

 I have bought and sold a few, but I still have this Model 4 - 4 1/2" fighter style.

 

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

I bought a 6" #5 with Sambar stag handle in the early '80s. Back then, you could call the store once a week and they'd tell you which knives were given to the store from cancelled purchases. I bought my knife from the store, rather than wait the whole entire year to have one made to order.

This was obviously before the new, hard wonder-steels. It was quite an awakening to touch a stone to that forged 0-1 tool steel blade. Mine's gently used and I haven't decided who will get it when I go.

Joined: 1/14/08                   Location: Central Wyoming

Longeye posted:

I understand that the quality is Old Skool, and that these are heirloom type pieces. However, this is Lightfighter:

So, are any of you actually using or carrying your Randall knives? Would you consider it? Or are these BBQ knives kinda like exquisite 1911's and highly tooled holsters, reserved for state occasions and contemplative times with close friends and excellent scotch?

Most people just look at their Randall Knives, but there are a few who use them. Lots of Recon types bought themselves Randall's during Vietnam, and there's a picture of Tom Spooner with one on his kit when he was still AD. 

I've wanted a 14 so bad. And a 12 with the 14 grind. Someday. 

Whats interesting is that a decades old knife with all the wear and scars of use fetches almost the same price as a new one. 

 

senorlechero posted:
Longeye posted:

I understand that the quality is Old Skool, and that these are heirloom type pieces. However, this is Lightfighter:

So, are any of you actually using or carrying your Randall knives? Would you consider it? Or are these BBQ knives kinda like exquisite 1911's and highly tooled holsters, reserved for state occasions and contemplative times with close friends and excellent scotch?

Most people just look at their Randall Knives, but there are a few who use them. Lots of Recon types bought themselves Randall's during Vietnam, and there's a picture of Tom Spooner with one on his kit when he was still AD. 

I've wanted a 14 so bad. And a 12 with the 14 grind. Someday. 

Whats interesting is that a decades old knife with all the wear and scars of use fetches almost the same price as a new one. 

 

Besides guys in the Military carrying their Randalls, the ones mostly used are the hunting models.

The Model #14 is nice, I just recently sold mine.  That #12-9 with 14 grind is on my list too, check out the version in the Non-Catalog Models, it's awesome!  I have the Model #4-6" Fighter from the Non-Catalog Models coming in a few months.

Knives from war years can have higher than new prices to some collectors.  For example; WWII era knives are WAY beyond my means.

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

yup, a bunch of years back I wanted a Randall and couldn't really afford a new one, so I thought to myself "self, we should look for a used one and save a bunch of money!" Boy was I wrong....

I'm considering ordering a 12-9 14 grind with forward curve brass double hilt, scalloped brass collar, crown stag....mmmmmm that's my dream knife.

my other dream knife is relatively common, 14 with brass forward curve double hilt and OD green border patrol or single finger groove handle, so I could pick that one up from a dealer like Nordic Knives. 

One thing I wish Randall would do is use owner supplied handle material. 

senorlechero posted:

yup, a bunch of years back I wanted a Randall and couldn't really afford a new one, so I thought to myself "self, we should look for a used one and save a bunch of money!" Boy was I wrong....

I'm considering ordering a 12-9 14 grind with forward curve brass double hilt, scalloped brass collar, crown stag....mmmmmm that's my dream knife.

my other dream knife is relatively common, 14 with brass forward curve double hilt and OD green border patrol or single finger groove handle, so I could pick that one up from a dealer like Nordic Knives. 

One thing I wish Randall would do is use owner supplied handle material. 

They do use customer supplied material, you just don't have a warranty when you use it.  In order to get Crown Stag you would need to supply it yourself anyway, they just have the regular Stag material on hand.  I use an authorized dealer who sells for better prices than Nordic, he sells at the catalog price at the time of delivery, you have to have lucky timing to get a just listed knife from his website, they go FAST!  He is Capt. Chris Stanaback, just google his name and his website is listed first.  He may have some Crown Stag, and it would only take a little less than a year to get the knife instead of almost five years from the Randall Shop.

 

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

Rob_Frey posted!
........  He is Capt. Chris Stanaback, just google his name and his website is listed first.  He may have some Crown Stag, and it would only take a little less than a year to get the knife instead of almost five years from the Randall Shop. 

These threads are killing me (a good thing I already had a Hi-Power, before reading that thread).

I had a 5.5 " Model 18 Attack 'Survival' back in the day. I sold it and bought a 7" Chris Reeve's Sable. Never used that since it was so nice, (a good thing, it was serial # 10, South African made, so sold on eBay a couple years ago for $$$$). Now reading this thread I decided I need another Randall. No way am I waiting until 2021  (date listed on the Randall website)

The Capt. Chris Stanaback site has some awesome Randalls at very fair prices, but almost all 'sold'.    So I just picked up a 7.5" (7-7.5" is my favourite length)  #14 Attack (my favourite blade style), with a curved hilt (again my favourite). Suppose to be "Vietnam Era"  (how can you tell ?), with Ironwood handles. I'm thinking of changing the handles (I have nothing  again Ironwood, I just want something flashier). Any recommendations for customs handles ?

I'm planning on using it the day I get it, so it does not become another safe-queen knife.

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"It's paranoia until something happens, then it is preparedness"

"It is not whether you're paranoid, it whether you're paranoid enough"

"When did you get so paranoid?" …When they started plotting against me.

I picked up a few from Nordic Knives when I was stationed up the road at Vandenberg AFB (http://www.nordicknives.com/). they seem to have them on hand if you don't need a special configuration. I don't spend as much time out and about any more so they have lived in the safe. I recently had some custom bowies commissioned from Dawson knives to my exact specs so those will be riding on my hip on my next excursions.

Location Texas.

 

"So what are you gonna do if we get hit on this trip?" "Me?, I'm going to shoot some good pics of you nuking their ass. You do your job, I'll do mine. If I have to do yours,(unless you're the medic) we're probably all screwed!" - Standard reply , from Desert Storm through Iraqi Freedom

Rob_Frey posted:
senorlechero posted:

yup, a bunch of years back I wanted a Randall and couldn't really afford a new one, so I thought to myself "self, we should look for a used one and save a bunch of money!" Boy was I wrong....

I'm considering ordering a 12-9 14 grind with forward curve brass double hilt, scalloped brass collar, crown stag....mmmmmm that's my dream knife.

my other dream knife is relatively common, 14 with brass forward curve double hilt and OD green border patrol or single finger groove handle, so I could pick that one up from a dealer like Nordic Knives. 

One thing I wish Randall would do is use owner supplied handle material. 

They do use customer supplied material, you just don't have a warranty when you use it.  In order to get Crown Stag you would need to supply it yourself anyway, they just have the regular Stag material on hand.  I use an authorized dealer who sells for better prices than Nordic, he sells at the catalog price at the time of delivery, you have to have lucky timing to get a just listed knife from his website, they go FAST!  He is Capt. Chris Stanaback, just google his name and his website is listed first.  He may have some Crown Stag, and it would only take a little less than a year to get the knife instead of almost five years from the Randall Shop.

 

No kidding? I didn't know they did that, thanks! 

I know of Capt. Chris, he's on my list, and if anyone is looking right now he has crown stag.

mog posted:
Rob_Frey posted!
........  He is Capt. Chris Stanaback, just google his name and his website is listed first.  He may have some Crown Stag, and it would only take a little less than a year to get the knife instead of almost five years from the Randall Shop. 

These threads are killing me (a good thing I already had a Hi-Power, before reading that thread).

I had a 5.5 " Model 18 Attack 'Survival' back in the day. I sold it and bought a 7" Chris Reeve's Sable. Never used that since it was so nice, (a good thing, it was serial # 10, South African made, so sold on eBay a couple years ago for $$$$). Now reading this thread I decided I need another Randall. No way am I waiting until 2021  (date listed on the Randall website)

The Capt. Chris Stanaback site has some awesome Randalls at very fair prices, but almost all 'sold'.    So I just picked up a 7.5" (7-7.5" is my favourite length)  #14 Attack (my favourite blade style), with a curved hilt (again my favourite). Suppose to be "Vietnam Era"  (how can you tell ?), with Ironwood handles. I'm thinking of changing the handles (I have nothing  again Ironwood, I just want something flashier). Any recommendations for customs handles ?

I'm planning on using it the day I get it, so it does not become another safe-queen knife.

Any recommendations for customs handles ?

Behring Made Knives in Montana does very good re-handles of Randalls.

www(DOT)behringmade.com

 

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

Lightfighter costing me $ again...Just placed my order for a Model 1-8 with a green BP handle, SS blade, nickel hilt & butt cap and had my name etched on it (if you're counting that's 6 features...the nice lady on the phone made an exception for me and I didn't even have to go into my prepared speech on how unreasonable it was to count a Border Patrol handle shape as an option for an Agent!), it'll be wrapped up in a fancy black sheath. I should have it my hot little hands sometime in the middle of 2021.

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

I have a 7.5" Mod 18 that I bought in '80 at a gun & knife shop in Fayetteville NC.  It rode on my web gear until I retired in '95.  It accompanied me in the Q Course, SERE and the Desert Tour 1990 and has more jumps than a lot of troopers I know.  It ain't real pretty, but it was well used and hangs above my gun bench today.  A few years back I picked up a Larry Vickers collaboration park'ed Mod 15 that has not seen any use.  

Two years ago we took the grandkids to Disney in Orlando and knew I had to get to Randall.  Son-in-law, grandson and I took off in search of Orange Blossom Tr.    Didn't know what to expect but we showed up one morning to see. A very nondescript facility well off the road with a simple single sign at the driveway. Entering the office a gentleman in a black shop apron come out of the shop and asked how he could help. Told him we were visiting and had to stop by. He asked if we would be interested is seeing the museum. Hell yes! He said he would call his brother to open it up and let us in. His brother was Michael Randall, Gary's son, Founder Bo's grandson. The museum had only been open a week or so and is housed in Bo's home on the property. What a facility, glass cabinets filled with every model imaginable, one offs, an original Astro, fighters and collectables from other makers. A room of pictures, letters (including those from Ronald Regan) and other print material. Mr Randall let us roam around, checking back periodically to share info and stories.

What a great experience! My 7 yr old grandson Luke talked about Randall Knives for the rest of the week. Like I told his dad, 'you have to start 'em out early'! The owners were welcoming gentlemen to us out-of-towners.

Ranger325

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf" George Orwell

Catching up with this thread again.  In 2012 I ordered a knife every three months for a while, they have come in.

Model 12-8" Bear Bowie:

 

Model 4-6" Fighter:

 

Model 5-6" Camp and Trail Knife (I sold this to a friend already):

Model 1-7" All Purpose Fighting Knife (that's not ivory, it's a synthetic called "Ivorite"):

 

 

 

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

My No. 1-7" is supposed to ship in July.  I'll try to remember and post pics.   My No. 25 is the only one to see "combat".Hogunt (18)

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Mark

Swear allegiance to the flag Whatever flag they offer

Never hint at what you really feel

Teach the children quietly For some day sons and daughters

Will rise up and fight while we stood still

 

Joined:  2/24/2003                          Location:  Nevada, USA

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