Proper wear of Hard Armor (with diagram)

OK, there's one thing that bothers me about rear plate placement.

From what I understand the front plate position is compromise between cover and mobility restriction. There are vital structures above jugular notch, especially when we consider different impact angles, but having plates higher would compromise mobility/ weapon manipulation.

But the rear plates, even when riding higher, shouldn't restrict mobility in any significant way (extension on top ot T spine and lower C spine). And higher placement,while potentionally exposing kidney and other structures below plates, would provide better coverage to subclavian a., carotid a. and potentionally aortic arch from rear, important nerve structures,...

Is there any reason to not have rear plate as high as possible? I got into argument with body armor company, and only answer I got was "the plate should be on same level for best coverage". Can anyone confirm this?

(even though this armor rides below T1 as advised, it can be seen on lots of pictures when using armor with "same height" construction)

Also some carriers (especially Crye) have design which actually puts rear plate higher different heights of cummerbund attachement points on AVS, JPC,....  

Or is my logic flawed?

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You're right, but few manufacturers build their rigs to do this.  Diamondback (now long gone) was the first.  Looks like Velocity still does.  Note the straps (and cummerbund flap) connect higher on the front plate and lower on the rear:

Image result for diamondback tactical plate carrierModular SCARAB™ LT / SCARAB™ LE Configurations

I think Jason started doing it with Tyr gear once he opened his own place. 

Some customers demand symmetry over plate placement.   More folks tend to wear the rear plates lower since they fight in places that are so stinking hot.

In a perfect world armor carrier manufacturers would have easy to purchase options for allowing different sized plates (and shapes) for front and rear, e.g., large rear and medium front.

The larger rear plate would allow for more coverage where less mobility is required while also allowing for some extra weight to offset the front load carriage, which typically has mags and other items pulling it down.

I know SKD tried to offer that with their Brigadine carrier but the plate specific fit made it a little bit too niche.

I think the Crye AVS plate bags allow for that type of customization but all the commercial dealers still sell it as a same size plate bag set for front and rear.

If this has been covered elsewhere, please direct me there (and I will update or delete this) but: How do you don and doff a PC correctly? 

Asking because wearing it high enough means your head sorta barely fits through the top so you go slow, bang your head, knock your glasses off, etc. My experience (reinforced with some asking around) is that people avoid that, and after a bit re-adjust the PC to wear lower for easier donning/doffing. Not lazy or stupid, but all in the name of being more effective, so they can react to situations faster, despite the end result being less optimal armor coverage. 

Is there a trick we're all missing? Or at least a mod/upgrade like shoulder straps you can leave loose but which can be tightened up once on? 

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On another note is anyone wearing one of these "slick" plate carriers under and uniform shirt? As opposed to stuffing rifle plates in a concealed soft armor carrier? Primarily for conus patrol work. Something i have been thinking about lately. 

Bigd17 posted:

On another note is anyone wearing one of these "slick" plate carriers under and uniform shirt? As opposed to stuffing rifle plates in a concealed soft armor carrier? Primarily for conus patrol work. Something i have been thinking about lately. 

I have done this with my JPC. It works well.

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