I don't think I'm over the line with this...came across this today and figured it was worth sharing (yes, I bought one).

http://www.larue.com/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit 

Don't let the URL fool you - the kits are for the entire rifle except the lower receiver, ~$900 delivered in a boutique color, ~$800 delivered in plane black, your choice of 5.56, 6.5 Grendel, .300 BO...for an additional $200, they'll set it up for you.

It's an astoundingly good deal for mid quality AR components...except these are LaRue AR components.  Virtually an entire 2k+ rifle for less than half that.  

 

 

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Ohh Boy, check in on LF before turning in, end up spending almost a grand.  FDE 6.5 Grendel plus a shirt.

Seriously, thanks, I've been contemplating a 6.5 Grendel build.  I'd like another 2 inches on the rail, but I'll live.

I'm looking at the 6.5 Grendel myself.

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I have a Colt 6920 and a Beretta ARX-100 sitting at my dealer of choice.  I better not....I am looking....I shouldn't, what is wrong with me its a good deal.  Oh I have a meeting so I will think about it....what is my credit card number.

See it happens to me too. I really want the 12 inch upper but I am resisting for now. 

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

 

Seriously, the hardest part for me is buying only one...I'm putting together a 6.8 upper as a load test mule for my dad...despite grabbing a DD barrel on sale from Brownell, if LT did a 6.8 I'd be two down for sure.  I might be anyway if I can find a use for the LT barrel separate from the rest...

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lpd5408 posted:

Thanks. Now I have to find something to sell so I can get one

How may kidney's do you have?

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Yup. Ordered mine yesterday.

One 14.5" in UDE inbound.

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Does anyone have hands on experience with these?  Mark sent a 6.5mm rifle to a well know Grendel fan, who is saying nice things about it. But, I'm interested in LFer's opinions.

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Well I ordered one in 6.5 Grendel black an unassembled. Hopefully that doesn't end up being a problem. I have plenty on good armorers near me and at the PD.

Now to get a couple mags and some ammunition. Thinking about getting some Hornady ELR and then use that brass to reload. So I guess I'll be getting some new dies, bullets, more primers and powder. 

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

I caved in...it was just too good a deal AND I did just come back from an all expense paid vacation.  I ordered one 18 inch 5.56 in UDE and one 18 inch 6.5 in plain old black (with UDE furniture) that will likely see a rattle can at some point.  1700 dollars in...and only another 200 dollars from having two complete rifles...the way I see it, that's 1900 dollars for two really solid rifles - that's a smoking deal.  

What blew my mind is that you can get 6.5 delivered for $.24 a round if you're willing to shoot Wolf...just something to consider.  

Now I need to buy more optics...

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Ordered on August 7th @ 22:30; arrived this afternoon, August 16th.  Packaged nicely, upon inspection everything seems flawlessly finished.  I am busy moving my daughter to college out of state, I hope to get this put together and some rounds downrage next week.

Thanks guys, that Grendel keeps looking better and better.  I'm hold off though until some one posts range sessions results. 

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I got 200 rounds of Hornady 123 gr AMAX (6.5 Grendel) that came in yesterday. Plan on reloading some after that. Question I have and may be more appropriate to ask somewhere else, but can I use my .223/5.56 mags? I have read yes, but have to download and read no I cant.

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

lpd5408 posted:

I got 200 rounds of Hornady 123 gr AMAX (6.5 Grendel) that came in yesterday. Plan on reloading some after that. Question I have and may be more appropriate to ask somewhere else, but can I use my .223/5.56 mags? I have read yes, but have to download and read no I cant.

Everything thing I've read says to use 6.5 specific magazines.  Larue is selling Elanders, Alexander Arms has a couple different models as well.  Check the 6.5 Grendel Forum for real world user comments.  The Magazines were a major issue for the 6.5mm Grendel to start with, I believe that they have gotten past it, but I highly recommend you do your research to confirm or deny my comments.  

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Where are you finding loaded 123 gn A-Max?  I'd love to get my hands on some.  Although, to be fair, the Hornady Black 123 gn ELD-M is a smoking deal (assuming it shoots) at around $15 a box.  

I ordered a case of the cheapo WPA stuff to do a bargain brand shoot out between the 5.56 and 6.5 - because the 6.5 is actually cheaper to shoot (and about even for the match ammo).  

I am waiting on "good" ammo at the moment as well as mags...you can jam an empty 6.8 SPC mag (not sure on 5.56) in the rifle and enjoy it as a single shot - I did that to test function.  Everything is TIGHT, but it runs just fine.  I just mounted a Viper PST 5-25x50...which looks absolutely comical...but...if it's worth doing, it's worth over doing?  Honestly, the AR-15 is light and handy enough that it actually handles pretty decently offhand when dialed down to 5x...it just looks absolutely silly.  

I'm still waiting on the 5.56 kit...I am thinking about selling my 7mm Rem Mag just to poach the optic (a Viper PST Gen I in 4-16x50...so, still comical, just a little less so), heh.  I intend for this to be me GOTO 5.56 and will convert my existing DDM4V1 to 6.8 SPC (probably with a LaRue handguard...also on sale for $209 at the moment...).

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Got my ammo from SG Ammo, but looks like they are out. Haven't got the upper from LaRue yet.

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

Anyone else mic their upper (specifically the lugs that mate to the lower)?  Mine mic at .5005 for the front and .5010 for the rear.  

I checked after I realized I couldn't mate it with my DD lower... Which mics at .490.

No issues (other than a snug fit) with my Aero Precision lower.

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Sans Pants posted:

My apologies if this is improper subject matter, I have two set to be delivered tomorrow.  I feel like these deserve better than the Aero lowers I have used in the past. What do you recommend for stripped lowers? 

SMOS used to make the original Larue lowers.  They are sweet and not festooned with all sorts of garish logos:

https://www.smosarms.com/colle...?variant=36758272199       

This CMT lower is also very nice, also devoid of a lot of lettering and logos....plus it is ambi:

https://www.cmttac.com/AR-15-R...ceivers/UHP15SSA-SSA       

I was wondering the same thing of necessity...I tried two more lower receiver today, batting .500.  Aero fit (tightly) and test fired without issue.  Spykes fit (at LGS)...loosely even.  Daniel Defense and some other machine lower I cannot remember did not.  

$300 for a lower is...not inconsequential...not when I have no confidence it'll fit.

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I went with a matched set from CMT (I've got a project I can use the upper for), found the best price on Rainier Arms.  There's lots of people in the billet lower game...I'm not accustomed to spending more than a matched set for just the lower...but, hey...we'll see how it goes.  

Of note, LaRue is now offering AR-10 builders kits...@$1300 for the kit...Gnnnnn.....

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Just to check back in - the CMT lower mates up nicely and everything is working just fine now.  

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I just got back from a week of training and a week of vacation and my 6.5 Grendel kit was waiting for me. Have to work this weekend so it looks like Monday I get to build a freedom dispenser. 

I have an Archer Manafacturing lower that on initial inspection will work. Besides upsetting the fit and finish crowd is there and problems with a billet upper and a forged lower?

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

lpd5408 posted:

I have an Archer Manafacturing lower that on initial inspection will work. Besides upsetting the fit and finish crowd is there and problems with a billet upper and a forged lower?

I don't think so, I used a Alexandria Pro-Fab lower on mine - nice and snug, almost too much so.

 

As long as the lower receiver mates to the upper and positions the internals properly, the process used to make it is a non-issue.  In theory, you can exchange forged and billet receivers of multiple makes without issue...in practice, of course, different specifications, tolerance stacking or different tolerances all together can create mischief.  There's a tremendous amount of standardization for AR-15s and it's pretty amazing...

Lets do this conversation with bolt guns for fun:

"So, what I want to do is take an McManners stock inletted for a Remington 700 action, throw a Sako action in it, and then mate that up with a Savage barrel, and a AICS magazine with Winchester M70 bottom metal and a CZ 550 trigger."  

Because that would work, right?   Yet many of us do the equivalent of that exact thing with our AR-15s and it works just fine because almost everyone builds key specifications to the same dimensions most of the time.

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Oh, different note, where's everyone getting their ammo?  You can scope Hornady Black pretty easily for around 17-18 bucks a box, and that seems to shoot well.  However, I don't see too much else for factory offerings, save SST and WPA....unless you go somewhere boutique (a la Precision Firearms).

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ELD-M @ 100m
1st Group, 2nd Session (3rd overall), shots 33-35

That's what my first, third, and fifth groups looked like.  Groups two and four were an inch each.  This is definitely shooter limited performance right now - I suspect .5-.75 is roughly what the rifle would do with someone more competent behind it.  Every group so far has been 2+1.  My Chrono data for the ELD-M got eaten, so I need to re shoot that...might do a couple five inch groups and try not to muck it up.

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DJL2 posted:

Oh, different note, where's everyone getting their ammo?  You can scope Hornady Black pretty easily for around 17-18 bucks a box, and that seems to shoot well.  However, I don't see too much else for factory offerings, save SST and WPA....unless you go somewhere boutique (a la Precision Firearms).

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I was just running over here to post that lowers were AVAILABLE!!.  But, Sans Pants got here first.  I guess you can run faster on the internet without pants.

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I was going to post this too, but I wanted to get my order in first.

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I keep trying to order my lower...getting an error...must. get. lower.  It'll complete my super cool color scheme where none of the colors match at all...heh.

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So I ordered mine and a case of Horandy Black from targetsportusa (200rnd/$185, free shipping).  Now to wait. 

Has anyone tried one of these with an A5 extension?

 

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DJL2 posted:

I keep trying to order my lower...getting an error...must. get. lower.  It'll complete my super cool color scheme where none of the colors match at all...heh.

Call them?  That is what I did, talked with an actual LaRue and placed my order.

I'm kind of upset at DJL2 for originally bringing this sale to our attention.  Thanks to his efforts I'm out 1200.00 and still have to buy a scope, not to mention getting a sufficient supply of 6.5G brass by converting factory ammo to brass, then getting the RL550 set up to load 6.5.

I'm in pain here. 

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