I can take pics of the gang grip that basicload was talking about but I have no idea how to post them. One of you high speed guys might have to help with that. I think once you see the grip it will be pretty apparent, although that's just one method.
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Originally posted by geronimo:
I can take pics of the gang grip that basicload was talking about but I have no idea how to post them. One of you high speed guys might have to help with that. I think once you see the grip it will be pretty apparent, although that's just one method.

I can put it on my website for you so you have somewhere to link to. Just e-mail it to me.

Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid
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Originally posted by GG:

I can put it on my website for you so you have somewhere to link to. Just e-mail it to me.

Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid



GG,
I sent a few pics to your PM. I would appreciate it if you would see what is applicable and post at will.

Break

For the rest of you. Sorry no pics of the gun but you can see how it would mount. Sure fire 6P in the ring and a simple allen head screw holds it all in place. This is a locally made item by select unit armourers so I don't believe there is a patent. But of course I could be wrong. I have been thinking about trying this with the Tango Down Battle grip to make it more versatile.
Have you guys seen the "new" tailcap for the Surefire? They used to have two separate ones (at least in the catalog), now it looks like they went to one.
Here is the link:
http://www.surefire.com/cgi-bin/main.pl?pgm=co_disp&func=displ&carfnbr=289&sesent=0,0

Here is the "old" new tailcap, it was known as the Dev Group tailcap. They used to have two version of it. A gnurled version and the version seen in the pic.
http://www.tadgear.com/edged%20tools/strider_&_surefire_collectors'_combo.htm

If anyone knows if the "new" cap is the same as the Dev Cap please let me know.

[This message was edited by GG on 29 December 2002 at 09:15 PM.]
The grip is secured to the ring by a self-locking allen head bolt. The bolt is then threaded directly into the ring, from inside the grip. Tap and die set is definately required. I've got access to a machine shop to make all of the items so I probably won't be doing this but, I was thinking that you could try to take a scope ring, make a countersunk hole on the upper side and use a flat (flush) head bolt with a nut and washer inside the grip?... I don't know if that would work or not but it was a thought. Using the scope ring would serve two purposes. It would keep you from having to find a ring the proper size/ inside diameter, and it would also keep you from having to tap the ring to accept the set screw to hold the light in place. While I'm thinking about it it would also give you the grabber rail built in... Potential problems are that I don't know that a scope ring would be stout enough to handle the abuse and I don't know the exact dimensions required offhand. If you're going to try it, good luck, let us know how it works out.

P.S. If you guys need exact dimentions to make your own just let me know and I can mic mine when I get home next weekend.
Thanks for the great pics and description- I was thinking of trying the scope ring set-up but my gut instinct was that theres no way I'd bet my life on it holding together. Maybe I'm wrong and someone can suggest an incredibly robust set of rings,but the one in the pic looks much sturdier than anything I have.

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Originally posted by geronimo:
P.S. If you guys need exact dimentions to make your own just let me know and I can mic mine when I get home next weekend.


If you don't mind that would be great.
Heck- If you're really gifted with machine tools and have time, you could try making a few and selling them- I'm sure you could line up several people on the board interested in buying one.

Thanks again!
I'm slightly retarded when it comes to machine tools, but I have a friend who knows how to do this. How do you think I got one? Big Grin
I will get the dimensions and post them this weekend when I return home. Basicload said his armourers were tired of making them and might contract them out so that may be another approach. The guy that I got mine from said they were a pain to make...
I emailed the above pictures to TangoDown LLC, makers of the Battlegrip and suggested they consider making something similar incorporating their existing Battlegrip product.

Here was their reply:

Dear James,

Thanks for the attached shots of the foregrip. We at TangoDown LLC appreciate all feedback we receive from our end users, especially when it comes to new product ideas to better serve our professional warriors. We do have several products in front of US Special Forces at this time, that are user enhancements along the lines of your email. We will announce these items to the general public on our website as soon as we are allowed. They feature the same multi-utility and top-quality construction of BATTLEGRIP tm. Thanks again for contacting us and keep an eye on our website for future product availability.

Sincerely,

TangoDown LLC
GG,
The SF Clickie comes in two versions, the one with the same width and style as the conventional momentary on push, twist constant switch and the one with the big knurled end from the MU series weaponlights... As you all know i'm all about the modularity, I think there are some people who prefer the clickie switch type and prefer SF quality to streamlight... i like the old school SF style lights and that's what I carry, but I'm also happy that there are other options available.
-bill
Ok, gents,

For those that care. The dimensions on my gangster grip are as follows. All dimentions are in inches.
Ring outside diameter: 1.504
Ring ID: 1.008
Ring length: 1.212
Sure-fire 6P OD: 1.000

just to give you a better feel for the overall size of the grip, it's height from the top of the grabber rail to bottom of the grip is: 5.820
The only other thing that I can think to add is that the grip is cut flat on top to make it even. You can change the angle to suit your personal "feel" when cutting it.

Any questions just holler.

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