GRUNTPAIN1775, It really depends on where you are going and terrain. With a Technician (entry license) If there happens to be a repeater available 2 meters (144 MHz) can be very reliable for both handhelds and mobiles. Otherwise, pretty much line of sight. On a hilltop that can get you quite far. Not so far in a river valley. 6 meters (50 MHz) does much better with terrain. Some areas have a lot of 6 meter activity simplex and repeaters. Other areas not so much. 6 meters is very inefficient with handheld radios and a rubber duck. You need about a 4 1/2 foot whip to make a quarter wave antenna.. You also need as much material for a ground plane or counterpoise. It's doable though. Next better would be 10 meters. Does fairly good on terrain for mobiles. Forget about handhelds. If you get your General license, The HF bands are best for remote mobile operation. You will need fairly large antennas though to get decent efficiency. You'll also need a General license. Not really any harder than Technician, just another test.

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David....if that was for me. Shit man.....

So yea, I'm not very "Techy" (pretty quick study though) and all of that went just out of reach of my head. Finger tips scrapping the bottom. That said....

I'm looking for some type of communication that I can use when cell phones are out or over burdened. Mainly to communicate to home and/or emergency services long distance.  

I apparently need some massive education in this area. 

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If you get hit, take the hit and return fire.
"Life is too short and too hard to waste drinking shitty booze." -DirtySanchez

 

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The big thing to remember is that if you are planning on using ham radio for your comms... except in dire emergency - the person on the other end of the radio has to be licensed as well.

For backpacking / primitive camping / canoeing - handhelds have the best portability, survivability and ease of use on the fly.. the drawback is that unless you have a repeater system in range- their range can be very limited.  Conversely ... low power HF has the greatest range, but also has limitations on using it while paddling down a river.... ie.. something happens... paddle to shore/sandbar, unpack rig (you would want it in a waterproof container..right?), setup antenna, start hunting for contacts as you're dialing through the freqs. 

I will say that while there are literally THOUSANDS of open epeaters available....with a few exceptions - they are mostly located in / around / between population centers. You MIGHT come across some that cover national parks, ,but they are the exception rather than the rule.

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National Parks, National Forests, etc...that's where I do most of my activity. So I see that will cause a issue. 

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Infantry, the original green movement.
If you get hit, take the hit and return fire.
"Life is too short and too hard to waste drinking shitty booze." -DirtySanchez

 

Joined Date: Sometime in 2009????   Location: home of shiftless squatters, robbers, and cutthroats, who make the bowie-knife and the pistol the law of the land.

Yaesu, and SGC make some very nice "manpack" style HF - ALL mode rigs, but they aren't cheap.  

http://www.sgcworld<dot>com/2020ProductPage.html

https://www.yaesu<dot>com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=102&encProdID=36B7B98621AF7554C9A03C8B190C5079&DivisionID=65&isArchived=0

AND.. you need power and antenna to run them....

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gruntpain1775 posted:

National Parks, National Forests, etc...that's where I do most of my activity. So I see that will cause a issue. 

You can take a look at the areas you frequent and then look at ARRL.ORG or a few other sites to see what repeaters are available.
Look for ARES/RACES/SKyWarn affiliated radio clubs - because in-general- their repeater systems are pretty robust and flexible.

http://www.rfinder<dot>net/blog/

There are even some google maps overlays with repeater locations / footprints / input-output information. 

As we get closer to spring (and storm season) you will see the activity on repeaters pick up dramatically as they are oftentimes used by storm spotter networks to provide on the ground feedback to NOAA regarding severe thunderstorms, tornadoes, etc. 

------------------------------------- "A True Warrior knows neither Left or Right"  Looking for a doc who can fix my allergies.. Stupid People and IED's...

Excellent. Thanks for the info guys. I have some homework to do for sure. 

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Infantry, the original green movement.
If you get hit, take the hit and return fire.
"Life is too short and too hard to waste drinking shitty booze." -DirtySanchez

 

Joined Date: Sometime in 2009????   Location: home of shiftless squatters, robbers, and cutthroats, who make the bowie-knife and the pistol the law of the land.

David Reeves posted:

Dayton Hamfest... its like the SHOT Show... for Hams....

I've been to that Hamvention, although it was 20 years ago... I recall a distinct paucity of hot chicks.  It was mostly overweight, grumpy, white-haired older guys in plaid . 

“One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England,”  -George Orwell-

HomoSepian posted:
David Reeves posted:

Dayton Hamfest... its like the SHOT Show... for Hams....

I've been to that Hamvention, although it was 20 years ago... I recall a distinct paucity of hot chicks.  It was mostly overweight, grumpy, white-haired older guys in plaid . 

And much like getting hit in the ankles at Shot show by a fudd with a pull cart full airsoft catalogs, Hamvention will get your foot run over by some overweight grumpy guy on a Lark scooter.   One of the vendors at Hamvention last time I was there had a sign warning visitors of attendees on scooters he aptly nicknamed "Ham-abouts". 

But to be back on topic - if you have any interest in ham radio, a club will definitely get you pointed in the right direction with exam help. 

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