Because of my constant obsession with Lightfighter traditions, I bought a Randall for the coming LF Hogpocalypse because well, that's what Dorsai said to do. 

What's not his fault is what I chose because as I have proven over the years here, I am fully capable of being an idiot on my own.....like now.

It is a Model 14 7.5" in SS.  What makes this quite different is that instead of the typical sharpening stone pouch there is another knife , a small  stout little blade called a Triathlete. 

What attracted my attention was this combo which I thought was pretty neat.  Should have paid attention to the seller's description.  There's rare and then there's RARE.  I can't use this thing.  It's a safe dweller.  I hate you Mark.  Lol

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If you never intend to sell it what difference does it make if you use it . Surely Peanut won't complain about a Randall with character marks as her legacy.  It's a knife : it needs to cut something.

That is nice. There is however something amiss with the pictures. A woodland camo backdrop with cat hairs on it.  Where’s the Multicam?  Don’t get me wrong, I like woodland camo it’s just so out of character for you. Is that really John posting or has some evil doppelgänger wanna be camo pattern taken over our counselor?

Those are beautiful.  And in the spirit of LF brotherhood, I would be honored to send you one of my Randalls to use on the hunt.  The blooded Model 25, a Model 14 (not as nice as yours) or a Model 1.

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That is nice. There is however something amiss with the pictures. A woodland camo backdrop with cat hairs on it.  Where’s the Multicam?  Don’t get me wrong, I like woodland camo it’s just so out of character for you. Is that really John posting or has some evil doppelgänger wanna be camo pattern taken over our counselor?

Peanut One made it for me during summer camp this year.  Despite the horrific cost of the camp, they only offered one type of camo material.  Bastids  lol😎

 

I carried a Model 14 for the invasion of AFG and the initial invasion of Iraq. They are the coolest knife to carry if you want to make history. Not completely practical anymore but still badass. I say use it! 

Congrats on the new blade. I'm in the "use it" camp.

Bought my Model 16 back in '77 and then dragged it around the world over the course of a long field career.  It has a few dings and decades of honest wear... but it still draws immediate attention when it comes out of the sheath.  I only "retired" it when I decided I didn't want somebody to purloin it off my KIA or CASEVACed ass late in the GWOT.  Started carrying something more easily replaced instead. 

My first observations of Randall knives were from seeing them swinging on various owners' Ranger Batt LBE... and getting employed as working tools in the field. After seeing them perform, I had to have one. Anyway, Randalls are built to use and they have personalities. If you listen carefully to the quiet and steely soul of your blade, it's begging to slice, stab, and cut something. It was actually made for that. Listen to it. 

 

 

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Congrats on the new blade. I'm in the "use it" camp.

Bought my Model 16 back in '77 and then dragged it around the world over the course of a long field career.  It has a few dings and decades of honest wear... but it still draws immediate attention when it comes out of the sheath.  I only "retired" it when I decided I didn't want somebody to purloin it off my KIA or CASEVACed ass late in the GWOT.  Started carrying something more easily replaced instead. 

My first observations of Randall knives were from seeing them swinging on various owners' Ranger Batt LBE... and getting employed as working tools in the field. After seeing them perform, I had to have one. Anyway, Randalls are built to use and they have personalities. If you listen carefully to the quiet and steely soul of your blade, it's begging to slice, stab, and cut something. It was actually made for that. Listen to it. 

 

 

I listened just like you said.  Closely.  And shit, if I didn't hear it speak to me.  A whisper at first which made it hard to hear what it was saying but it grew louder until I could make it out....

"John....John....you're a walking quick bleed out.  Coumadin and knives don't play well together.  But that is second to observing the tiddlywink spirit that flows through Lightfighter.   The knife John....don't be a bitch... use the fucking knife."

I may have paraphrased a bit but that was the gist of what the knife told me so I'll use it.  So it is written, so shall it be done.

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Astronomy posted:

Congrats on the new blade. I'm in the "use it" camp.

Bought my Model 16 back in '77 and then dragged it around the world over the course of a long field career.  It has a few dings and decades of honest wear... but it still draws immediate attention when it comes out of the sheath.  I only "retired" it when I decided I didn't want somebody to purloin it off my KIA or CASEVACed ass late in the GWOT.  Started carrying something more easily replaced instead. 

My first observations of Randall knives were from seeing them swinging on various owners' Ranger Batt LBE... and getting employed as working tools in the field. After seeing them perform, I had to have one. Anyway, Randalls are built to use and they have personalities. If you listen carefully to the quiet and steely soul of your blade, it's begging to slice, stab, and cut something. It was actually made for that. Listen to it. 

 

 

I listened just like you said.  Closely.  And shit, if I didn't hear it speak to me.  A whisper at first which made it hard to hear what it was saying but it grew louder until I could make it out....

"John....John....you're a walking quick bleed out.  Coumadin and knives don't play well together.  But that is second to observing the tiddlywink spirit that flows through Lightfighter.   The knife John....don't be a bitch... use the fucking knife."

I may have paraphrased a bit but that was the gist of what the knife told me so I'll use it.  So it is written, so shall it be done.

I'm also glad you decided to use it. If you didn't I wasn't going to laugh at any of your posts no matter how funny. Yeah... I was that disappointed. 

Consigliere posted:
Astronomy posted:

Congrats on the new blade. I'm in the "use it" camp.

Bought my Model 16 back in '77 and then dragged it around the world over the course of a long field career.  It has a few dings and decades of honest wear... but it still draws immediate attention when it comes out of the sheath.  I only "retired" it when I decided I didn't want somebody to purloin it off my KIA or CASEVACed ass late in the GWOT.  Started carrying something more easily replaced instead. 

My first observations of Randall knives were from seeing them swinging on various owners' Ranger Batt LBE... and getting employed as working tools in the field. After seeing them perform, I had to have one. Anyway, Randalls are built to use and they have personalities. If you listen carefully to the quiet and steely soul of your blade, it's begging to slice, stab, and cut something. It was actually made for that. Listen to it. 

 

 

I listened just like you said.  Closely.  And shit, if I didn't hear it speak to me.  A whisper at first which made it hard to hear what it was saying but it grew louder until I could make it out....

"John....John....you're a walking quick bleed out.  Coumadin and knives don't play well together.  But that is second to observing the tiddlywink spirit that flows through Lightfighter.   The knife John....don't be a bitch... use the fucking knife."

I may have paraphrased a bit but that was the gist of what the knife told me so I'll use it.  So it is written, so shall it be done.

Can't wait for the knife throwing competition at the CBS!

A few days after taking possession of my newly delivered & pristine Randall knife, I went to the field with my platoon. Knife strapped to harness pistol belt. It was like carrying the Home Coming Queen on my hip. Immaculate, razor sharp, perfect... and a very expensive toy for a 19 year old PFC. It hadn't cut anything to that point except for my thumb (Yes, I found out it was razor sharp the hard way). Naturally, at some point, while standing around bored in the woods, we decided to chunk knives at a big ole fat trunked pine tree. So the usual mix of K-Bars, AF survival knives, and pawn shop killer knives got broken out & tossed though the air for beer money bets. Including my new Excalibur.

Very shortly, one of those other knives clipped the blade of my Randall, already stuck deeply into the tree. OMG! A ding on the spine of my knife. Crap. My Virgin Prom Queen was sullied. Naturally, I just kept throwing it. Because you can't fix stupid. The next disaster was a sliver of Micarta grip chipped off by another flying blade. Fuck me to tears.

#1 Lesson Learned back then was not to use knives (especially expensive ones) for tasks they're not designed to handle (target throwing, heavy pry bar jobs, or batoning stupidly large items). 

Those self-inflicted defects looked glaringly HUGE to my eyes. My knife was starting to look like the Prom Queen after an Outlaw MC gang bang. Oh well. After that, I wasn't afraid to drag her through hard work or nasty field use. Which I did for the next 30+ years. Without incurring any more significant damage than light surface scratches and an eventually worn out leather sheath. Coupla years ago I buffed out the cosmetic blade scratches. Blade looks pretty new. I can barely spot those two stupidity dings. They look a lot smaller after all this time. And the knife has character that only a long use working knife can possess. 

The first user-inflicted imperfections will annoy the hell out of you. After that, you can settle down and get some "duty" use out of it. Because you are no longer trying to protect it in perfect condition.

BTW: I named that blade "Rebecca" the day I got her. Thanks Robert Heinlein, for the idea. I'm not a big fan of anthropomorphism when it comes to inanimate objects, but that knife was (and still is) something deserving of a name. After 44 years of ownership, hard use, and a coupla downrange deployments... she's kinda grown on me. 

P.S. - You can preemptively counteract the bleeder effects of Coumadin by liberally applying a styptic pencil to the blade's edge before carry. Rub it on like a crayon. Then, when the inevitable occurs, they'll cancel each other out. Use an office stapler to close the wound (like most normal people)... and drive on.  Unless you stab yourself through the testicles. In which case you'll want to cauterize with a heated coat hanger wire first...

Enjoy that knife. She looks very nice. Carve some pig.

 

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Note to self, "NEVER take medical advice from Astronomy."

Beautiful knife.

I'm going against the grain and say don't use the knife.   You now have the perfect reason now to buy another Randall as a user.   If you use that check  it instantly becomes null and void.

Oh, by the way a girl that picks woodland camo instead of pink or purple to make a pillow is a treasure.

That 1 is hawt! I have a 1-8 on order with nickel silver everything and a green BP handle that is about a year or so out still. I’m hoping to swing by the factory in a couple weeks while I’m out there for Nationals. 

I saw another one of these combos for sale tonight while buying another Randall knife.  There is some sticker shock on this combo, but I say use it.  In  my research selecting my newest one, I have learned that everything is fixable on them. I bought a Model 16 Special Fighter tonight for no other reason than I wanted another Randall, and screw it, I have 2 jobs.  I do think the Spartan Blades and Reeve knives are more practical, but they have no soul. This sounds like the time I blamed my Rolex purchase on the bad influences, here.

I hear you.  And  I have....probably mistakenly....admitted publically that I will use it.  But its 5 months away and a lot can happen.  Why, I could misplace it right before I leave and in a panic have to buy another.   That is why "How to wiggle out of shit" was one of my most valuable law school books.

Not setting this up but I would keep an eye on some Winkler knives popping up around here sometime soon.  😎😉

It is for some of the reasons above that knives like these need to come pre dinged, that way it is done for you and you don't have to snivel, piss and moan when it happens. This way it makes it easier to man up and use the bitch. BTW the same goes for new trucks and cars.....

Seems like a handy place to drop these...I visited the Randall compound on Monday on my way home from USPSA Nationals and it was awesome...the museum is not to be missed, some highlights: 

Yup, that’s the Scagel knife that started it all.  

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A Model 1 who’s history is absolutely incredible.

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A couple of astronaut carried (into space) knives...yup, motherfucking space knives.  

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They had a ton of crazy stuff from around the world including this Jab-A-Jap I found particularly amusing.

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And you may be I have a fancy Japanese automatic toilet that caters to your every need cool, but you’ll never be custom made Randall knife tiles in your restroom cool...(No offense Con if you already have these in your bathroom (& I wouldn’t be surprised if you did))

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So I chickened out.  And I fucked myself yet again.  Between losing the Hoback and getting this Randall today, my knife luck is suspect at best.

The layaway program at AZCK should be illegal.  WAY too easy to buy expensive knives.   So since I decided I didn't want to use the Model 14, I got a Model 16 Special Fighter today.  It's beautiful......but too small for my hands.  The finger grooves don't help for sure but overall the length of the handle and its thickness are a bit shy for me.

Too bad because it is beautiful.  Light and very handy.  Came with a minty brown sheath.  I did buy two really cool Randall marked nylon cases to store them in because I don't keep them in the sheaths.

I have two more months plus to get the right Randall.  Off to AZCK.  Fuckers.20181221_18563120181221_18571820181221_18574320181221_185815

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I can ease your pain.

PM me and I'll send you my address. I'll even cover shipping, because, I am that kind of  guy.

Just because your dainty digits don't fit the grooves shouldn't mean the work and effort put into this fine piece of steel should go unused and unappreciated.

I am here to help....

 

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FINALLY.  My Randall came in today that I will actually use for the Hogpocalypse.   Oh, wait....

One last reminder of my failure arrived this morning.   A Randall Model 14 CDT.  SS, Ivorite handle and black sheath.  Very TX BBQish if I do say.

It is my favorite of the three and since I don't need three but yet like having A Randall, I'm selling the other two post haste.  A couple of brothers were already interested in the 14 Attack anyway.  I must say these are beautiful knives and I do understand the whole Randall thing a bit better.

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This thread may cost me money. After handling a mentor's years ago, I knew I "needed" a #15 Airman. Never bought one. Truth be told  if I bought one now it would probably just sit in a drawer and only handled for occasional admiring 

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