All - I have a trip to Ireland in the fall and I have found that I need to replace my fleece pullover.  I really like a midweight 1/2 zip pullover style.  Why?  I'm not sure, I just prefer them over full zip.

I'm looking for something I can wear as a standalone jacket yet use to layer under a shell for cold/inclement weather as well.

I've used Columbia a lot in the past and had good luck with them, I've got a couple of Patagonia R1 and R2 pullovers, but they scream .mil as does most of my Arcteryx stuff (not mil but LE and trying to avoid any of that as much as I can).

So what do you guys like these days?

Chris

 

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If you choose the brighter colors, the Patagonia or Arc'teryx fleece won't look too conspicuous.  

Check out the Arc Delta AR in "nocturn" it's a blue color that could go either way  

Also, OR is having a big sale right now. 

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I don't have one, and it for sure isn't high-tech/super high-performance, but it's inexpensive.

https://www.rogueelite.net/445...weatshirt-p/4451.htm

Granted, size and color is a bit limited.

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Outdoor Research Radiant LT. I have two and my wife has one. I have nothing but good things to say about them. They are thin enough to layer, warm enough to wear as a light jacket, they look good, the zipper unzips enough that if I get too warm I can easily ventilate, and they has thumb holes in the sleeves so they don't bunch up when wearing them under other layers. I've had one for a year and the other for two. They have held up just fine. I wear them a lot, maybe two to three times a week in fall and winter. They retail at $90 but OR has a pro program if you are eligible. Otherwise, check their website or REI for sales. A quick search shows online prices between $50-$90. 

https://www.outdoorresearch.co...-top/p/2428720691007

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Not direct help.... but while there, pick up an Arancrafts sweater. Heavy, everything proof, you can get them there for $70 equivalent. Imported same brand.... 200 to 300. 

 

Talk to FM he is in Dublin. Ensure its an actual Arancraft not a made elsewhere ripoff.  If you live anywhere with real cold weather you'll love it. I have one but living in TX, few chances to wear. If you need tips on things to see, been there twice.

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Thanks for all the replies folks.  I applied for the OR Pro Program last night at work and was approved by the time I got up today...let the fun begin!

MrMurphy - I've been in comms with FM and he has been a huge help, as always.  I missed him last time around as he was here on his honeymoon, but we did link up with Bloods1 and his lovely wife for an evening.  This will be our second time as well, but I'll still hit you up via PM later tonight or tomorrow for info.  I can never have too much!

Thank guys,

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Not the usual name brand for cool guy fleece, but I think these are bad ass:

https://nelsonuniform.com/coll...?variant=12128480839

The grid fleece is lightweight but super warm.

We got them in last winter for the store - and they sell 3 to 1 versus Under Armour. I did not expect that.

Brad

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Brad is the coyote brown a mid-brown, same question w/ the grey variant as I couldn't tell from the WS picture.

Gotta say the price sure seems right, liking the sleeve thumb holes & the 2 side pockets as well.

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Not the usual name brand for cool guy fleece, but I think these are bad ass:

https://nelsonuniform.com/coll...?variant=12128480839

The grid fleece is lightweight but super warm.

We got them in last winter for the store - and they sell 3 to 1 versus Under Armour. I did not expect that.

Brad

I'm liking that one a lot. Is there a 1/4 zip hoodie version? I don't like full zip, do slats get pullover hoodies. This would be a nice change from all my carrhart hoodies. 

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MG in TX posted:

Brad is the coyote brown a mid-brown, same question w/ the grey variant as I couldn't tell from the WS picture.

Gotta say the price sure seems right, liking the sleeve thumb holes & the 2 side pockets as well.

The Brown is a couple shades past MJ Khaki or Wheat, but not quite the 'light chocolate' some brands use as their coyote. The Gray is in the middle - its not light like Wolf, but its not as dark as a Charcoal.

Here is a photo of all 4 colors in the line next to a Paraclete coyote pouch.

They do make a 1/4 zip hoodie version of this grid fleece. It comes in Coyote or Black and is the same price. I just haven't added them to the Nelson website yet. I'm getting there...

Brad

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Assuming you want to try and blend in somewhat, I'd recommend one of the following brands;
Nautica,
Polo, Fila, Puma, and Adidas... or just pick up something from a Marks&Spencers when you arrive.

You want to select brand names and styles that aren't going to stuck out like a sore thumb in area you're traveling, the last time I was in Ireland all of those brands could be spotted on the backs of locals.  Ultimately you can choose to wear whatever you want, but if you go with a "cool guy brand" just know that even the "lowpro" offerings will have you sticking out like a sore thumb.

Although no experience with the zip version, I really like tge Kuhl Interceptor jacket.  Warm, comfortable, and non military looking.  Made well, like other Kuhl products.  Although only a 1/4 zip. 

ZIP VERSION; http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/...e/interceptr-14-zip/

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I have been dabbling in hunting the past few years.   Have become a big fan of a company called first lite.     http://www.firstlite.com/   Their halstead fleece might fit the bill.  

 

Also a company called kuiu.   http://www.kuiu.com/hunting-ja...ts-and-vests#start=4

 

 

Their guide jacket has become become a favorite and their phantom color is muted without looking .mil.  

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First-spear has their ACM wool Woobie, looks about ideal. 

http://www.first-spear.com/pro...p;cat=327&page=1

 

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Gents - thanks for all the replies, I do appreciate the help.  I really liked that First Spear pullover, but damn is it expensive!  I'm not saying it isn't worth it, just too much for me right now.

I did get signed up for the OR Pro program so I'll have that to work with in the future too.

Brad, when I get back I need to come out your way and check out those TruSpec half zips, they look like they would be a good fit on the range in late fall to early winter around here.  Besides, I hear your getting an FFL...

Chris

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I'm solidly a Patagonia R1 guy. I have a bunch of colors besides the green ones I got for free. I find that anything with a hood looks distinctly less military. OR has some good options. I've bought my GF a bunch of their stuff because it's cheaper than feeding her Arcteryx addiction. I think you really can't go wrong with OR if you're getting the pro-deal. 

fpdsniper posted:

Gents - thanks for all the replies, I do appreciate the help.  I really liked that First Spear pullover, but damn is it expensive!  I'm not saying it isn't worth it, just too much for me right now.

I did get signed up for the OR Pro program so I'll have that to work with in the future too.

Brad, when I get back I need to come out your way and check out those TruSpec half zips, they look like they would be a good fit on the range in late fall to early winter around here.  Besides, I hear your getting an FFL...

Chris

Yes - come see us! As for FFL, it is here. Now just gotta sell some pullovers so I can buy guns for the store!

Brad

Saw something similar looking  around Cabelas yesterday, checked their website and this may fit the bill, if its like the sweatshirt its about as thick as a fleece

http://www.carhartt.com/produc...ip-Sweatshirt-102277

Hooded version

http://www.carhartt.com/produc...ck-Sweatshirt-100617

 

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While it wasn't Ireland, I wore a Patagonia MARS fleece and rain shell through southern Germany one winter as a normal human tourist without any issues or commentary. And that even with going back to where I was stationed and visiting the site we guarded. 

Not sure how coyote would work, but there shouldn't be issues with black or grey. 

I see a few recommendations for sweatshirts (Carhartt & Woolrich), the things I'd point out are weight (even dry) and water retention. 

The military issue grid fleece is the government copy of the Patagonia R1. The original sets were purchased from Patagonia and then the manufacturing for non-SOF was transferred over to other vendors. The materials and construction is basically the same. The only major design difference is the reinforcement tape on the lower zipper end and the lack of a chest pocket. The R1 looks more civi with the chest pocket and no tape. You can change the zipper pulls to oddball colors if you have the subdued tops and it looks pretty decent too. 

 
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I have a pair of the Nano Puffs Pullovers . They are my go to for warmth in light weight. I have one in black and one in orange. They pack down to nothing and bounce back right away. Thin enough to layer under almost anything.

 

 

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Is there any difference in the material?

The R1 pullover is about $100. I can get the grid fleece for A LOT less than that.

The material is going to be the same. The military issue one will be cut slightly larger and as I said before, you won't have a chest pocket. The tan grid fleece is a great deal if you just want outdoor wear. If you want to chill out at the bars in a college town and not look like a vet the R1 is a better choice. I have tons of both and am a big fan of either, depending on the time and place. 

The Nano-Puff is also a strong contender. It packs into the tiny chest pocket and is light enough to layer. I used to run a grey one under my ACU top when shit got frigid. I've taken nano-puff's to every continent except Antarctica several times and it's almost always one of the first serious travel jackets I make sure is in the bag. 

 

The Nano-Puff is always in my carry on and usually in my edc work bag.  I also have the vest version

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