hile posted:

I've heard - but haven't confirmed - that 6390s and 6360s also fit the ACRO P-1, but perhaps need the cheeto guard removed.

Mine fits with the guard, but I remove the bottom barrel plug and light cap so my 5" X5 will fit.

MG in TX posted:
scsu74 posted:
EzGoingKev posted:
scsu74 posted:

I'm more and more impressed with my ACRO after the big internet scare of the battery lasting a day or two. I just cracked 6 months on the original battery with my daily carry pistol that I leave at setting 7 when using. I turn it off when off body fwiw.

Do you guys find firing the gun effects the battery life?

I'm still on the original battery, so can't say. I have used it for two pistol classes and shoot the shit out of it on my training lower. Nice thing about the 320 is mix and match slides. I have 4 different slides with various optics (407, ACRO, DPP x 2) and use the same X5 lower portion.

SCSU74 you mind sharing a pic. of that group w/ the X5 lower?

Absolutely, I'll take a shot tomorrow. I do have one of my X5 slides on the way to mac defense for his future proof cut. Can't wait 

OK, I made two drastic life changes this week. I purchased a Gen 5 Glock 19 MOS AND a Holosun 507c.  I have never actually owned a Glock and passed on the G27 my old agency issued detectives and HQ staff, instead carrying the same gun the regular patrol guys did. 

I’m 60 and noticing that I can’t reliably focus on pistol sights as well as in the past. I’ve gone to white outlined tritium insert front sights on most of my carry guns except two that have fiber optic sights.   Colored sights seem to help but I ain’t going to get younger.  Therefore I decided to try a RDS, I already use them on most of my AR shaped rifles and one shotgun. 

The Holosun came in today so I mounted it and took it to the range.  I was getting 2” groups with 124gr jhp ammo and 2 1/2” with 124gr fmj  from the bench at 25 yards.  Not as good as my 10mm 1911, 6” .357  or either .44 revolver but not too shabby.   I have shot a bit with Glock pistols and I was impressed with how quickly the dot lined up during presentations and stayed visible during recoil when I shot some dirt clods at the 50 yard backstop.  It may not take very long to begin to feel comfortable.

Are you guys using the manual or auto mode with the Holosun sights?  I thought that switching to manual disabled the sleep mode but mine turns off after 10 minutes in manual.  It doesn’t appear to be as sensitive as the Leupold scope or three SIG Romeo sights I own but I don’t believe you could get it into firing position without triggering the dot.    All in all I’m impressed with the little gun and sight  

 

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Fwiw, as of this afternoon - per one of their range staff - Los Angeles County Sheriff's Dept has authorized pistol mounted optics - Trijicon Type 2 RMR, Aimpoint Acro P1, & Sig Romeo1Pro. Has to be factory cut. Deputy has to be qualified as an Expert plus a few more things involved.

Per the instructor, the work being done by LAPD was very beneficial in their success.

FWIW.

Rick R2 posted:

OK, I made two drastic life changes this week. I purchased a Gen 5 Glock 19 MOS AND a Holosun 507c.  I have never actually owned a Glock and passed on the G27 my old agency issued detectives and HQ staff, instead carrying the same gun the regular patrol guys did. 

I’m 60 and noticing that I can’t reliably focus on pistol sights as well as in the past. I’ve gone to white outlined tritium insert front sights on most of my carry guns except two that have fiber optic sights.   Colored sights seem to help but I ain’t going to get younger.  Therefore I decided to try a RDS, I already use them on most of my AR shaped rifles and one shotgun. 

The Holosun came in today so I mounted it and took it to the range.  I was getting 2” groups with 124gr jhp ammo and 2 1/2” with 124gr fmj  from the bench at 25 yards.  Not as good as my 10mm 1911, 6” .357  or either .44 revolver but not too shabby.   I have shot a bit with Glock pistols and I was impressed with how quickly the dot lined up during presentations and stayed visible during recoil when I shot some dirt clods at the 50 yard backstop.  It may not take very long to begin to feel comfortable.

Are you guys using the manual or auto mode with the Holosun sights?  I thought that switching to manual disabled the sleep mode but mine turns off after 10 minutes in manual.  It doesn’t appear to be as sensitive as the Leupold scope or three SIG Romeo sights I own but I don’t believe you could get it into firing position without triggering the dot.    All in all I’m impressed with the little gun and sight  

 

I’m running manual brighteness on unknown setting (I just clicked it until I saw it on a light colored wall getting lit up by my weapon light.

Also, I use the CHPWS V3 adapter plate instead of the one that comes with the MOS.

Enjoy...

Rick R2 posted:

OK, I made two drastic life changes this week. I purchased a Gen 5 Glock 19 MOS AND a Holosun 507c.  I have never actually owned a Glock and passed on the G27 my old agency issued detectives and HQ staff, instead carrying the same gun the regular patrol guys did. 

I’m 60 and noticing that I can’t reliably focus on pistol sights as well as in the past. I’ve gone to white outlined tritium insert front sights on most of my carry guns except two that have fiber optic sights.   Colored sights seem to help but I ain’t going to get younger.  Therefore I decided to try a RDS, I already use them on most of my AR shaped rifles and one shotgun. 

The Holosun came in today so I mounted it and took it to the range.  I was getting 2” groups with 124gr jhp ammo and 2 1/2” with 124gr fmj  from the bench at 25 yards.  Not as good as my 10mm 1911, 6” .357  or either .44 revolver but not too shabby.   I have shot a bit with Glock pistols and I was impressed with how quickly the dot lined up during presentations and stayed visible during recoil when I shot some dirt clods at the 50 yard backstop.  It may not take very long to begin to feel comfortable.

Are you guys using the manual or auto mode with the Holosun sights?  I thought that switching to manual disabled the sleep mode but mine turns off after 10 minutes in manual.  It doesn’t appear to be as sensitive as the Leupold scope or three SIG Romeo sights I own but I don’t believe you could get it into firing position without triggering the dot.    All in all I’m impressed with the little gun and sight  

 

I go manual, near the brightest setting. My 'shake awake' seems to work fine, I have not picked it up and the optic not be on at any point since I bought it about 6 months ago. 

Mine is on a Brownell's milled slide, which has been 100% compatible with my Gen 4 lower and all holsters that I use.  The Holosun's seem to be a very optic for the money. 

https://youtu.be/DtMGQjYfSbQ

I hadn't seen this posted just yet, but the SIG Romeo 2 looks like it is a decent innovation and a company listening to end users input.  It has the option for open, or closed emitter design, with steel shrouds, and is specifically designed to pass the Sage Dynamics drop test as well as reliability testing.  I think it will force more innovation in the future amongst the top manufacturers in the industry, and allow for those users that like the smaller footprint designs of the RMR style optics to also take advantage of the features of an enclosed emitter design, as desired.  

It looks very promising. I have serious trust issues with Sig, however, so these would have to have some significant time in the field for me to consider one. I do like the features/concept though.

CWM11B posted:

It looks very promising. I have serious trust issues with Sig, however, so these would have to have some significant time in the field for me to consider one. I do like the features/concept though.

Concur on all points. 

I’m just glad the closed emitter duty ready optic thing is being pursued, at some point someone will get it right. This looks like a step in the right direction. 

Any reason I shouldn't be looking at options for putting an RDS on my 1911? If so, does it make more sense to mill my current slide or get another one just for the RDS? I'm just not thrilled with the polymer options out there.

Malpaso posted:

Any reason I shouldn't be looking at options for putting an RDS on my 1911? If so, does it make more sense to mill my current slide or get another one just for the RDS? I'm just not thrilled with the polymer options out there.

I’m interested in options for milling 1911s too. 

Beren412 posted:
Malpaso posted:

Any reason I shouldn't be looking at options for putting an RDS on my 1911? If so, does it make more sense to mill my current slide or get another one just for the RDS? I'm just not thrilled with the polymer options out there.

I’m interested in options for milling 1911s too. 

Me too.  Those front sights aren’t getting any clearer. 

Rick R2 posted:
Beren412 posted:
Malpaso posted:

Any reason I shouldn't be looking at options for putting an RDS on my 1911? If so, does it make more sense to mill my current slide or get another one just for the RDS? I'm just not thrilled with the polymer options out there.

I’m interested in options for milling 1911s too. 

Me too.  Those front sights aren’t getting any clearer. 

Case in point... Took my mom and stepdad to the range yesterday. Mom was having fun shooting my milled 19X and my Staccato-P-DUO with RMR. Now, Mom's shot maybe 150 rounds total in her life, and due to the way she had her eyes fixed years ago, she's monovision; they focused one lens for near, one for far. At one point in the afternoon, after Mom had shot maybe 30 rounds, I put up a paper USPSA target that had major anatomy overlaid on the A/C, at about 5m. (See the point above that Mom had fired maybe a bit over a box of ammo total in her life at that point.) Anyway, given a dot gun, Mom proceeded to put 4 of those 5 rounds into one ragged hole. The first one was a flyer before she realized that because of the monovision keeping one eye open is a no-go for her.

my wife is only 46, but she’s already had cataract surgery and they did a simultaneous mono-vision correction to fix her severe near-sightedness. Thanks for reminding me of yet another benefit of RDS optics with their infinite focal plane. 

Chambers Customs has a 1911 specific slide cut and adapter plates. He licensed at least one other gunsmith (I think more) to do the machining and then you buy the plates from Chambers.

Dave Laubert, of Defensive Creations in Alliance, OH, was the first guy licensed. I've been happy with work I've gotten from Dave and other efforts of his that I've seen.

Erick posted:

Chambers Customs has a 1911 specific slide cut and adapter plates. He licensed at least one other gunsmith (I think more) to do the machining and then you buy the plates from Chambers.

Dave Laubert, of Defensive Creations in Alliance, OH, was the first guy licensed. I've been happy with work I've gotten from Dave and other efforts of his that I've seen.

Is it a drop in slide, or does it need some finishing based on the frame manufacturer?

Malpaso posted:
Erick posted:

Chambers Customs has a 1911 specific slide cut and adapter plates. He licensed at least one other gunsmith (I think more) to do the machining and then you buy the plates from Chambers.

Dave Laubert, of Defensive Creations in Alliance, OH, was the first guy licensed. I've been happy with work I've gotten from Dave and other efforts of his that I've seen.

Is it a drop in slide, or does it need some finishing based on the frame manufacturer?

https://www.store.chamberscust...rs-custom-rdms-plate

The slide is cut and a plate with that foot print but specific to the PMO attaches to the slide via that cut.

Contacted both Chambers and Dave Laubert. I just have to decide if I want to cut the stock slide or get a replacement to have done. As an FYI, if you are going to use a Holosun (as I am) the Holosun plate from Chambers will only fit their 507C or 508T models.

ETA: Dave Laubert recommended NOT to get a second slide without a matching barrel/bushing, so I will not be going that route.

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Erick posted

https://www.store.chamberscust...rs-custom-rdms-plate

The slide is cut and a plate with that foot print but specific to the PMO attaches to the slide via that cut.

So $150 for the plate plus $150 for the machine work on your slide?  I take it that there will be other plates for the “Latest Greatest” RDS as the gnomes release them from Magic Mtn.

I’m going to shoot and carry my MOS G19 for a while with the 507c, but I can foresee me sending a slide off if this works out for you. 

That's the beauty of the Brownell's slide if you have a G19 that you want to mount an RDS on.  It's pre-cut for the MRO profile, which is identical to the Holosun 507C.  If you're planning on that combo, it's just the shipping time from Brownell's instead of waiting for the stock slide to be cut.

Can anyone comment on the difference between the Holosun 507C and 507C V2? Amazon (from Holosun) has the non V2 for $269.99. As I understand it, the V2 has different (larger?) buttons for brightness control is all.

Malpaso posted:

Can anyone comment on the difference between the Holosun 507C and 507C V2? Amazon (from Holosun) has the non V2 for $269.99. As I understand it, the V2 has different (larger?) buttons for brightness control is all.

V2 also has a smaller, side-loading battery.  I've HEARD that the top acrylic protecting the solar panel is thicker too, but I haven't seen Holosun verify that.

 

Beren412 posted:
Malpaso posted:

Can anyone comment on the difference between the Holosun 507C and 507C V2? Amazon (from Holosun) has the non V2 for $269.99. As I understand it, the V2 has different (larger?) buttons for brightness control is all.

V2 also has a smaller, side-loading battery.  I've HEARD that the top acrylic protecting the solar panel is thicker too, but I haven't seen Holosun verify that.

 

Well that could be key. How big of a pain in the ass is un-mounting it to change the battery?

Malpaso posted:
Beren412 posted:
Malpaso posted:

Can anyone comment on the difference between the Holosun 507C and 507C V2? Amazon (from Holosun) has the non V2 for $269.99. As I understand it, the V2 has different (larger?) buttons for brightness control is all.

V2 also has a smaller, side-loading battery.  I've HEARD that the top acrylic protecting the solar panel is thicker too, but I haven't seen Holosun verify that.

 

Well that could be key. How big of a pain in the ass is un-mounting it to change the battery?

Given that you'll most likely fucker up your zero when you dismount it to change the battery... I would think a side loading battery would be a game changer.

I'd be interested to see how far off the zero goes when you remove the holosun or RMR to replace the battery.  i don't have experience with that myself as I haven't had to replace anything's battery yet where I was shooting consistently enough to say "That's a zero shift" vs "I fucked that group up." I'm probably going to put one of the older 507c's on Mom's 19MOS, given what she's doing.

“Well that could be key. How big of a pain in the ass is un-mounting it to change the battery?”


Given the estimated 100-200,000 hour battery life and the solar panel I doubt too many people have needed to change batteries. 

No holosun experience.  A fair amount of Aimpoint RMR's (1 G17, 1 G19, 1 M&P .45) with Aimpoint standard battery life. They do wear out however and pulling them to replace is a PITA.  The zero remains "pretty close" after replacement, but I still spend a range session at varying distances to confirm. 

The Aimpoint ACRO mounted on an S&W M&P .45,  eats batteries compared to the RMR's, but a simple battery change, 10-15 rounds to confirm (just a little OCD) and GTG.   After the next battery change and some shots, if good, I'll just go the next time. 

YMMV 

Heads up on the 507C. It appears that a lot of places are clearing it out in anticipation of the V2 model. Another LFer turned me on to Palmetto State Armory, and I checked and they have it for $229, with an additional $20 off with the code "optic", through today.  Figured what the hell, might as well get one now (V2 looks like it won't be available until mid March) and I'll probably be dead before the battery.

Thanks @Community Member - ordered from Chambers and Defensive Creations today. Excellent comms by both, I was emailing with Dave Laubert at 0530 this morning. He must have a dog too

Malpaso posted:

Heads up on the 507C. It appears that a lot of places are clearing it out in anticipation of the V2 model. Another LFer turned me on to Palmetto State Armory, and I checked and they have it for $229, with an additional $20 off with the code "optic", through today.  Figured what the hell, might as well get one now (V2 looks like it won't be available until mid March) and I'll probably be dead before the battery.

Thanks @Community Member - ordered from Chambers and Defensive Creations today. Excellent comms by both, I was emailing with Dave Laubert at 0530 this morning. He must have a dog too

PSA's email specials are... well... addictive...

Just sayin.

I like that the original Holosun 507c or 508T uses the CR2032 battery most of my RDS use. The V2 is going to use the same  CR1632 that my Vortex Venom uses which doesn’t seem to last as long. The Venom however doesn’t have a solar panel or “shake awake”.  But at least there is some supply commonality.  

Malpaso posted:

Thanks @Community Member - ordered from Chambers and Defensive Creations today. Excellent comms by both, I was emailing with Dave Laubert at 0530 this morning. He must have a dog too

You are welcome, sir. I am truly impressed with Dave as a craftsman. I hope you are as well.

Rick R2 posted:

I like that the original Holosun 507c or 508T uses the CR2032 battery most of my RDS use. The V2 is going to use the same  CR1632 that my Vortex Venom uses which doesn’t seem to last as long. The Venom however doesn’t have a solar panel or “shake awake”.  But at least there is some supply commonality.  

The 2032 and the cost is why Mom's gonna get the original. Since it's just gonna be a nightstand gun anyway.

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