Revolvers II

Fighting gun is an understatement.  3-6" N frames have a long reputation as the revolver you take for hunting bad guys.  From Frank Hamer who supplemented "Old lucky" (Colt SAA) with .44 Spl HE.  Jelly Bryce and Jerry Campbell.  I even have it on good information that some of the best gunfighters at LAPD in the days before they banned .357 magnum.  These just feel like awesome when you put them in your hands.  

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Originally Posted by nyeti:

Did someone say 3.5" Model 27.....  I got a set of factory n frame square butt Combat Grips today.  They are insanely expensive now, but are coveted.  They feel fat, but good.  I am a unabashed lover of the 3.5" 27 and earlier Magnums.  Still trying to find a birth year one to round things out (Already have a set of Stags waiting for that one and custom leather).  This is my shooter until recently.  I now have a couple of the current 627's that are 8 shots, and a PC 327 that I simply love for a car and shove in a back pocket or in my pants gun (it replaced the P7 I used for years in that role).  I am happy with these newer guns and would have no issue using them for woods guns, general purpose revolvers.  

 

 

You are like CONSIG but with revolvers instead of H&KS and COLT.

 

You ever see the movie Stepbrothers?  There is a line in that movie that fits this thread to a T. 

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I'm either dead right, or horribly wrong. Either way the results should be entertaining.

 

"Shoot the MOTHERF$%^ER until he changes shape or catches fire"  the PAT ROGERS

I have a Consig level of 1911's and HK's as well.....sheesh.  Only difference is mine are mostly MARS guns and his are JoJo's.  Now when it comes to Multicam......he owns the field. 

 

The revolvers for me are very much an investment and I am also working on putting together a display for the S&W collector association on Smith LE gunfighting revolvers.  

 

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

Originally Posted by nyeti:

I have a Consig level of 1911's and HK's as well.....sheesh.  Only difference is mine are mostly MARS guns and his are JoJo's.  Now when it comes to Multicam......he owns the field. 

 

The revolvers for me are very much an investment and I am also working on putting together a display for the S&W collector association on Smith LE gunfighting revolvers.  

 

I'd go a step further and say that they are a passion for you and I'd say it with a good load of respect. 

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I'm either dead right, or horribly wrong. Either way the results should be entertaining.

 

"Shoot the MOTHERF$%^ER until he changes shape or catches fire"  the PAT ROGERS

I was told the pre-27 grips on my early M-27 are worth a lot, like about $600.00.

I have been offered that by two different collectors....crazy town!

Scared of dinging them so I don't shoot the gun much...might get a set of Nll's or something.

Art

Originally Posted by gulf1263:

I was told the pre-27 grips on my early M-27 are worth a lot, like about $600.00.

I have been offered that by two different collectors....crazy town!

Scared of dinging them so I don't shoot the gun much...might get a set of Nll's or something.

Art

Depends which grips.  Diamond magnas will bring more than later ones (which are running up to $100), the only thing bringing close to $600.00 would be "Cokes", which even the hardcore collectors are shocked at.  I am going to put a set of Nill Cokes on one of my Model 28's, and those are stupid money in my mind at around $260.  At $600.....I am going with ivory before a factory wood grip.

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Smith-Wesson Model 28-2 4

 

I'm having a really hard time not bidding on this as just kind of a cool shooter...

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=497190247

 

 

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Originally Posted by nyeti:
Okay, back to serious bad ass revolvers.  Today, history.  If you were a serious gunfighting lawman in Texas or Oklahoma prior to WWII, this would likely be one of the guns found in your AW Brill or Myres Holster.  The 1926 3rd Model Wolf & Klar .44 Special.  These were carried by Jelly Bryce and Jerry Campbell before they went to the FBI when they worked in Oklahoma City. Many were "engraved" through the finish by a guy at the Wolf & Klar shop with an electric pencil and fitted with Mother of Pearl grips with a Longhorn and ruby eyes.  Mine is oil slick blue and fitted with custom Elk Stag stocks. 
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I really want a shooter grade version of this but Im not sure Im willing to put the coin into it.  Maybe a 28 with some stags would be "close enough"

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Maybe you just have awesome photo skills, but that is the most beautiful finish I have ever seen on a firearm.

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He does have awesome skills.....and that's a prewar Smith. They have to be seen to be believed .

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I just hit a button on the IPhone 4S and it happens. Unlike Pat, I suck at photography.  I was suprised myself when I opened the box and saw the finish. It is refinished, but looks great.

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

Originally Posted by ptrlcop:

 

 

 

 

I'm having a really hard time not bidding on this as just kind of a cool shooter...

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=497190247

 

 

 

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Once again you bastids cost me money...  at least I got a good deal.  Got this baby for $475+ transfer fees.  Now, to find some reasonably priced stags and some leather.

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Originally Posted by ptrlcop:
Got this baby for $475+ transfer fees.

Great price That would have gone for at least $600 in my AO.

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Nice pickup. I had gone through several revolvers and when I handled the 28 I was finally sold. I put some VZ grips on mine and they work for me. .357 through that revolver is a pleasure even hot loads, but 38's are the majority of what I shoot through it and they are even better

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

I was convinced on wanting a 4" N frame, only thing I planned to look at. Well I was wrong, or I failed, but either way I am happy. I picked up a 66-2, just to look at it, at the local gun show. Now I own a 66-2, and a 6" barreled one to boot. Not what I thought I wanted, but when I held it, it felt perfect. The balance, the trigger, everything was just right. As a bonus, its not got a lock.

 

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Here is new piece with a set of Grasshorn Elk stocks.
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I went out and put 70rds through her.  I shot mostly on a B8 at 25yds.  I found that when I mashed a trigger press in DA that the tendency was to miss high right which is the direct opposite that I would expect with other guns.  This is the type of challenge I needed to put some fun back into shooting.  I had sort of stalled lately.
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Some very nice looking shooting irons in this thread.  I like the lines of the S&W N frame a lot.  I've thought about buying one in .357 on several occasions but always end up coming home with a .44 Mag when I buy S&W.  The last big revolver I purchased was a 4" Redhawk in .45 Colt and while no where near as svelte as the N I kind of like it's wide baby bearing hips and the fact that it is strong like bull.  .  

 

Here is a piece of NYCPD history that I thought y'all might enjoy.  If anyone has a lead on a hard copy of the Spring 3100 Volume 22, Issue No. 2 - February 1951 magazine please let me know.

 

Spring 3100 (NYCPD magazine) Volume 22, Issue No. 2 – February 1951

 

 

 

Second paragraph...

 

“The Harold R. Masback Trophy was won by Probationary Patrolman John Komar, Shield No. # 7554, for attaining the highest average in pistol practice with the regulation service revolver.  A final average score of 91.80 won the trophy for the former Air Force Technical Sergeant.”

 

 

 

 

I was up in San Antonio the last couple of days for a Med class with a couple other PA's, on our way back down to the Valley we stopped in a gun shop just off the freeway S of town and saw this beauty.

It's a 1st generation Colt SAA in 45LC made in 1927. The store had it sent out for a restoration (I forget who he said did it but the guy is Colt factory authorized for restorations) that took 18 months and cost them $6,500. The factory letter they got from Colt in it said it was among the last 2 cases of SAA's that Colt ever shipped to a Police Dept. San Antonio PD received these 100 pistols and did the marking you see on the frame.

This thing was absolutely stunning in person, the case coloring was mesmerizing and the gun looked as nice as if had just left the factory. They said it was in pretty rough shape when they got it and looked as if it had seen a lot of use. I can only imagine the story's this thing could tell. imageimageimage

ETA: deleted my interpretation of the gun store guys Turnbull comparison to the restorer they used.

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Originally Posted by XTCBX:
I was up in San Antonio the last couple of days for a Med class with a couple other PA's, on our way back down to the Valley we stopped in a gun shop just off the freeway S of town and saw this beauty.

It's a 1st generation Colt SAA made in 1927. The store had it sent out for a restoration (I forget who he said did it but he said he made Turnbill look like a hack and the guy is Colt factory authorized) that took 18 months and cost them $6,500. The factory letter they got from Colt in it said it was among the last 2 cases of SAA's that Colt ever shipped to a Police Dept. San Antonio PD received these 100 pistols and did the marking you see on the frame.

This thing was absolutely stunning in person, the case coloring was mesmerizing and the gun looked as nice as if had just left the factory. They said it was in pretty rough shape when they got it and looked as if it had seen a lot of use. I can only imagine the story's this thing could tell.

Nice! I love single actions. Even better with some history.

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Nice Colt.

 

It's Turnbull.  And hack?  I would have laughed so hard in that guy's face, I probably would have passed out from a lack of oxygen.  He ruins a great revolver with a bullshit comment.

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Yea, To be fair, he didn't use the word "hack" (although it was implied in the comparison of him to "his guy", but to be clear HE DID NOT SAY that Turnbull was a hack) I know nothing about nothing when it comes to that kind of stuff but he told me comparing Turnbull to this guy was like comparing him (the gun store guy) to Turnbull...I just smiled and nodded...and tried to not drool all over the counter.

They also had a case of other SAA's from Hank Williams Jr. On consignment. One was a electroplated 8" SAA in 44/40 with 90% of its original finish from pretty early production. It was jaw dropping.

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Dury's and Nagel's (both in S.A) have some amazing pieces.

 

I used to work for Nagel (Bob, not his idiot son). Both shops had some stuff hidden away normal shops never see (Nagel's, when I was there, had four Trapdoors and about 6 original percussion Colts, some pre Civil War), as well as the weird and wild variety of anything you could think of (Lugers, M1914 Mausers, every S&W ever made, etc).


Dury's is a nicer shop espceially with the newer location, but both are worth a look in for that random weird-assed gun you never figured you'd handle....much less have a shot at buying.

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Originally Posted by ptrlcop:
Here is new piece with a set of Grasshorn Elk stocks.
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I went out and put 70rds through her.  I shot mostly on a B8 at 25yds.  I found that when I mashed a trigger press in DA that the tendency was to miss high right which is the direct opposite that I would expect with other guns.  This is the type of challenge I needed to put some fun back into shooting.  I had sort of stalled lately.

Thats pretty!

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Ran across this one.  Pussy Galore in "Goldfinger".  Good taste in guns!

 

 

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Is that a Heavy Duty? Shrouded barrel, fixed sights. At that time, all I can think of is an M20 or a pre-20, as it has the ramp front sight blade. I suppose it could be a M21/22, but I am not in a location where I can check for photos real easily to confirm that it could be one of those. I doubt it is a 3rd model HE .44, because of the Baughman blade.

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Originally Posted by Doug Mitchell:

Is that a Heavy Duty? Shrouded barrel, fixed sights. At that time, all I can think of is an M20 or a pre-20, as it has the ramp front sight blade. I suppose it could be a M21/22, but I am not in a location where I can check for photos real easily to confirm that it could be one of those. I doubt it is a 3rd model HE .44, because of the Baughman blade.

 

According in the Internet Movie Firearms Database. It's a Model 22. Bond calls it a Smith and Wesson 45 in the movie. 

For duty carry, what was the preferred method and location for reloads.  Dump pouches gun side,  cowboy loops across the back, speed loaders on the belt, etc?  For CCW I like speed strips because they carry well in a pocket but I think I am compromising some speed for ease and concealment.  I would be interested in seeing some pictures of the rigs that go or went with these guns.  Also, I hate all of you because you forced me to buy another J frame and my first K frame in the last few weeks.

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Dump pouches or a belt slide with belt loops.

Speedloaders weren't real common until the middle 70s or so.

 

Possibly carried in a Border Patrol style holster with a retention strap.

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