I carried a double speed loader pouch on the strong side, which was the most common method around here back then. One or two guys wore their pouches on the left side. 

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If you knew what you were doing, speed loader pouches on the strong side.  I carried doubles initially and then a triple as I got a little fatter....  In .45 Long Colt, they looked like tomato paste cans.

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

I got looks and questions with a triple N frame.357 speed loader pouch at a course.

.45 long Colt would mystify most people. They stuck me and my buddy, also shooting .357 at the end of the line. During a break the guys shooting carbine next to us came over asking what the BOOMS were and why they were getting showered with debris.

 

Dave

"Keep that cheap, wail'n slut quiet!" A.J. Maggott

Originally Posted by nyeti:

I have a Consig level of 1911's and HK's as well.....sheesh.  Only difference is mine are mostly MARS guns and his are JoJo's.  Now when it comes to Multicam......he owns the field. 

 

The revolvers for me are very much an investment and I am also working on putting together a display for the S&W collector association on Smith LE gunfighting revolvers.  

 

Would love to see the display of Smith LE gunfighting revolvers, make sure you post pics!

I carried two hks speedloaders 357 for my 6 in python on my right side. Two speedstrips with 38 spec in my right shirt pocket.They would also work in my BUG,det spec on my left ankle in a renegade holster. During the academy and for a couple weeks after I got out I had a 12 rd loop located behind my holster on my sam browne belt. For tactical reloads. I had practiced enough with it that I do the 12rd cof  in 18secs using the loops. But come to find out there was actually a regulation saying ammo couldn't be visable so I had to get rid of it.

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Got something special yesterday.  My family is from the Canal Zone in Panama.  They have been there since the Canal was built and I was there the night Carter gave it away (burn in hell asshole).  I tried to get some custom grips made by Craig Spegel out of some Panamanian Cocobolo, but he is not taking orders.  Luckily, a fellow lightfighter had an order in with Craig for several sets of Detective Special grips.  He was nice enough to add a set for my Detective Special (also from a Lightfighter) in Panamanian Cocobolo in a high grade wood and checkered.  The results are remarkable and I will be proud to carry this one as a "something special" gun.  Just need some Central American Caiman leather.

 

 

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Initially, I was going to put the grips on my Cobra, but they are so pretty that it is tough to put them on the ones with a bunch of wear.  

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

 

 Nyeti, 

 That is awesome, makes me wish I didn't sell mine.

Something about the undelug on the short barrel, fat 6 shot cylinder(vs a J frame)and those grips, gives the gun a very stock muscular look that I love...kinda like an old muscle car.

 Mine had the Colt marked Pachmeyers on it. I rarely shot it, and in the end I decided no matter how cool it was, that eventually i would not be able to get it fixed if it broke.

 It had some trigger reset issues, I sent it to Colt, and they cleaned up the trigger, chamfered the charge holes, and some other stuff. That was back in 08 or 09?

 

I think that is where S&W could really make something new...ish....

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

An updated and modernized S&W Model 12 would be great.  Heck.......and updated Detective Special would be great...

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

I had just gotten old enough (finally) to buy pistols when the Colt Magnum Carry/DSII came onto the market, and then vanished. I was pissed, the Detective Special has always been a favorite of mine.

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Originally Posted by nyeti:

An updated and modernized S&W Model 12 would be great.  Heck.......and updated Detective Special would be great...

 

 I was thinking more of a frame size between the J and K...I have it on fairly good authority that S&W experimented with one in the past.

 Otherwise a modern M12 would be cool

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

It was the "C" frame, I think a model 73.

 

Myself, I'd love to see a 3" M12 with the sights from the Nightguard series (IIRC, the front was an XS BigDot, which is what I want, with a wide notch in the back - I'm old and my eyes suck). I prefer the look of the heavy barrels on a K frame, and of course it has to be round butt.

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Originally Posted by Doug Mitchell:

It was the "C" frame, I think a model 73.

 

Myself, I'd love to see a 3" M12 with the sights from the Nightguard series (IIRC, the front was an XS BigDot, which is what I want, with a wide notch in the back - I'm old and my eyes suck). I prefer the look of the heavy barrels on a K frame, and of course it has to be round butt.

Yes! it would go great with my 3" M13. One could carry the 3" M12 and shoot the M13.

 

"The energy and beauty of youth fade, the glory we pass on"

In this weeks edition of revolver awesomeness.....

1913 Smith & Wesson New Century Triple Lock in .44 Special with vintage Sambar Stag stocks.  This was the gun that really set the standard for the transition from the Colt SAA to the modern double action revolver and still considered one of the finest revolvers ever made.

 

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"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

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The grips are awesome.  I bought them just for this gun.  The blueing was a not that great re-blue that was probably done in the 50's.  I likely paid a little too much for this one, but is just got a feeling that it's an old lawman's gun from the east Texas/west Louisiana area. hopefully, a letter from Smith and research will confirm my suspicions.

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

That is straight up beautiful. I find myself having to talk myself out of buying another revolver over something more practical (G26) and I blame y'all and these amazingly gorgeous guns

 

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Joined:  1/30/05           Location: Graham, Wa

 

 I would say damn you all, but I started the thread, so.......

 

 I just picked up a Model 15 at the police store. Its a PD trade in, not a confiscated gun. Beat up on the outside, but seems to lock up tight, trigger is ok...very light single action. Missing the windage screw...$297 tax tag and title...he had $350 on it, came down to 300, and with out prompting went to $275. I figure a pre lock K frame for under 3 bills...I couldn't afford not to buy it.

 

I understand the rear sight can be difficult and complicated. Anybody know where I can get a windage screw, or if might be more then just a matter of screwing in a new screw?

Maybe someone I cans end just the sight to to rebuild it?

 

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

Originally Posted by R.Moran:

 

 I would say damn you all, but I started the thread, so.......

 

 I just picked up a Model 15 at the police store. Its a PD trade in, not a confiscated gun. Beat up on the outside, but seems to lock up tight, trigger is ok...very light single action. Missing the windage screw...$297 tax tag and title...he had $350 on it, came down to 300, and with out prompting went to $275. I figure a pre lock K frame for under 3 bills...I couldn't afford not to buy it.

 

I understand the rear sight can be difficult and complicated. Anybody know where I can get a windage screw, or if might be more then just a matter of screwing in a new screw?

Maybe someone I cans end just the sight to to rebuild it?

 

I'll see your model 15 and raise you a model 58!

 

I walked into one of my less frequented stores and asked what they had for old revolvers. A four inch model 15 was produced in used but decent shape. Tag on it was $350. I offered $150. $168 tax in and I became the owner of a new to me model 15! 

 

Just a couple days ago I lucked out and found a model 58 that I grabbed on the spot. Waiting on the transfers. Once they are done I'll post some pics of the new acquisitions and then maybe get some up of my other wheel guns.

 

Between this thread and the S&W forum I have experienced a direction change, down sized on un-issued cool guy gear and guns and am now enjoying a renewed interest in revolvers. 

 

Originally Posted by SeriousStudent:

Just managed to score a very nice 4" S&W 686 with a pair of holsters, six speed loaders and two speed loader pouches for $600.

 

A part of me wants to track down a 3" barrel for it and do a swap, but my sane brain says leave it as-is. 

 

Somehow I foresee this acquisition @ the DPC on Sat., just a WAG mind you & nice pick up.

Joined: 3.28.09            

Location: NETX

Originally Posted by MG in TX:
Originally Posted by SeriousStudent:

Just managed to score a very nice 4" S&W 686 with a pair of holsters, six speed loaders and two speed loader pouches for $600.

 

A part of me wants to track down a 3" barrel for it and do a swap, but my sane brain says leave it as-is. 

 

Somehow I foresee this acquisition @ the DPC on Sat., just a WAG mind you & nice pick up.

I really, really hope it arrives in time.  If it does not, I will be the one with the sad face.

 

Even if it does not, I have a half-dozen wheelguns I'm going to bring anyway.  It will be great to see you and your partner in crime, I'll bring some cigars and tasty beverages for after dinner Saturday. 

 

I'm thinking about shooting my deceased father's Colt Lawman just for fun at least part of the time. 

 

So many pistols, so little time.....

Originally Posted by R.Moran:

 

 I just picked up a Model 15 at the police store. Its a PD trade in, not a confiscated gun. Beat up on the outside, but seems to lock up tight, trigger is ok...very light single action. Missing the windage screw.

 

I understand the rear sight can be difficult and complicated. Anybody know where I can get a windage screw, or if might be more then just a matter of screwing in a new screw?

Maybe someone I cans end just the sight to to rebuild it?

 

I have a memory of seeing reports similar to your impression - the rear sight is full of small stuff and opportunities to make errors. You also have to know some specifics of the year made, as there were some evolutionary changes across time. I don't know if you can search the S&W forum without being a member, but the level of knowledge available there would likely get you a workable answer within a day or less.  There is a subforum for gunsmithing and the like. You might also try Brownell's for parts.  I can't find it now, but I have seen references to an approved warranty station for S&W, I think in Texas, that has gotten good reviews.

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I got some new stocks for my 66. It had the massive (for my hands) target stocks on it when I got it and I'm trying to find something that feels right and looks good...imageimage

The Pachmire small presentation ones felt pretty good but were a bit long front to back and felt kind of skinny and didn't really do it for me visually. I scored a set of old PD take off Magnas off the eBay and they look the part but I'm not sure they're doing it for me as far as how they point...the quest continues.

Also, what ammo should I be buying for potential carry? A good .357? A better .38? Doc.?  I searched a bit but I can't find anything definitive, I'm looking for an easy button answer...bonus points for a live link to an in stock product!

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I wonder if DocGKR has any information .357 Mag Hornady LEVERevolution 140gr. Elastomer Flex Tip Ammo?  There isn't any .357 data that I saw in that forum.

 

I would like to know this too, I am looking for a recommendation for a friend who just bought a new .357 Mag..  A load that can do self defense and hunting is what he's looking for too.  I haven't owned a .357 Mag in several years, too many guns, not enough money.

 

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

 

 Grips are a bitch, you never really know until you shoot with them, for a while...and even then it could be a guess.

 I put a set of the small presentations on the M15 I just bought. They'll be OK, but I'm looking for a set of Pro Grippers.

 

 For carry ammo, I settled on the 135grn +P Gold Dot for all my revolvers now. From my understanding its the only load NYPD issues for revolvers....good enough for me. I have no real plans to shoot any more then a handful of magnum rounds in any handgun.

 For my lever and single shot....got me...I've got some buffalo bore 180's, but those aint cheap. American Eagle 158SJHP shoot fairly well....but the +P loads are pretty soft shooting. I've got a supply of Rem 125SJHP +P's also

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

Seriously R.Moran, Nyeti, Pat, etc...you guys get us all wound up on wheel guns and I haven't seen a single "ok LF here's the definitive answer on what you put in these things" recommendations with a link on where to buy?

What kind of paint to use for rifles or jeeps? Sure, here you go...Coffee makers, a new vacuum, security windows? Of course..Weird thing that makes noises to annoy people? Here's a link...

Sorry...the 1st day off after a week of Mids is always weird and I haven't had my coffee today. Hmmm...French Press or Cold Brew?


ETA. Wow! That was fast!!! Thanks R. Gotta love this place...and I've decided it's off to Starbucks for a Cold Brew...

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Location: Southern Arizona 

Yea, but you were too fast...you answered the question while I was being a bitch and typeing about not getting an answer...to the question...good times. Some people...(roll eyes)

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

Re: grips.  If you are going to stick with the skinny wood grips, add a Tyler T Grip http://www.t-grips.com/  It will do wonders for the feel without increasing the grip size.

 

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Mark

Swear allegiance to the flag Whatever flag they offer

Never hint at what you really feel

Teach the children quietly For some day sons and daughters

Will rise up and fight while we stood still

 

Joined:  2/24/2003                          Location:  Nevada, USA

I'm planning on getting a set of the VZ G10 grips for my 66. They have a shorter butt, but look to be about as big around as the target grips. I really just want more grip, and the checkered VZ's look to fit the bill.

 

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Joined:  1/30/05           Location: Graham, Wa

Here's my ammo choices, FWIW, YMMV, etc.

 

For carry in a J frame or 2 inch M-64 & home use.

1. Speer 135 grn +P GDHP

2. 158 grn LSWCHP by Fed,Buffalo Bore, Winn or Remm

3. Fed 129 grn +P HSJHP

 

For the .357 lever gun

Winn 110 grn JHP, I've got a BUNCH.

Fed 158 grn  HS JHP, I've got a bunch.

 

Heavy stuff

HSM 180 grn lead flat point Bear Load

Grizzly 200 grn WLN Gas Check

 

If you haven't looked at Buffalo Bore, HSM & Grizzly, they have many niche loads for revolvers and lever guns .  Don't blame me when they get your money !

 

Dave

 

"Keep that cheap, wail'n slut quiet!" A.J. Maggott

I shoot 135 gr. +P Gold Dot .38's in just about everything these days with the exception of the non +P rated snubs that get 125 gr. std .38 Gold Dot.  I have some Hornady XTP .357 if I needed harder hitting or for the lever gun, but mostly just the .38.  It is down right joyful in the Model 27's/28's and not horrible in the snubs.

"If I had a Grandpa, he would look like Delbert Belton"

Let those who love the LORD hate evil. The one who guards the lives of his godly ones will rescue them from the power of wicked people. Psalms 97:10 Trooper Troy Duncan-EOW 5-19-84 Deputy Erik Jon Telen-EOW 8-21-2001

I use the Speer Gold Dot 135+p in .38 Special, the Federal HST 129+p and the Winchester Ranger bonded 130+p in both revolvers and carbines.

In my  3 inch heavy barrel Smith M-60 or M-13, M-65 or M-686+ or Ruger, these loads should be sufficient at close condo ranges and G-d forbid on the street.

The 125 grain .357 Mag. blowtorch I fire once or twice a year to remind myself how raw that round is.

Art

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