Revolvers II

I'm still curious about my 1956 Trooper, curious if it is able to handle +P ammo.  I don't really see a need for it, but there are times I come across deals on some form of +P .38 Special ammo, and I never buy, because I don't want to be too heavily invested in something that may not be useable in this gun.

Anyone have any good reason to believe this gun couldn't handle +P?

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That same frame was used to build the Python, so it's almost certainly +P capable.  I just wouldn't shoot lots of that through the gun.  Truth be told, all of the traditional DA revolvers are somewhat fragile and subject to accelerated wear if we feed them steady diets of high pressure ammo. 

DetWD posted:

That same frame was used to build the Python, so it's almost certainly +P capable.  I just wouldn't shoot lots of that through the gun.  Truth be told, all of the traditional DA revolvers are somewhat fragile and subject to accelerated wear if we feed them steady diets of high pressure ammo. 

Thanks, Wayne. 

My usual training load is a 130 gr. standard pressure FMJ with the occasional cylinder of standard pressure 158 gr. LSWCHP’s. 

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To a great extent I have gone full reactionary in traditional revolver calibers and like heavy for caliber SWCs at moderate velocity. In revolvers chambered for an auto -pistol caliber, I tend to stick with a duty load similar to or the same as would I would carry in the auto.

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Doug Mitchell posted:

To a great extent I have gone full reactionary in traditional revolver calibers and like heavy for caliber SWCs at moderate velocity. In revolvers chambered for an auto -pistol caliber, I tend to stick with a duty load similar to or the same as would I would carry in the auto.

Doug, that’s why I keep it loaded with the 158 LSWCHP’s. I know the velocity is not there for expansion so if I’m not going to get expansion I want penetration and penetration with full diameter hole cutting ability.  I think these will get that done. 

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Full reactionary.  A good way to be.

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lpd5408 posted:

Got a text from my smith. This started out as a 4" S&W model 64-6 in 38 special I bought from Longeye several years ago. My biggest issue with this revolver was the sights. A Dawson FO front sight will installed. The barrel is cut at 3" and re crowned. A trigger job will be performed as well as bead blasting and VZ grips to round it out.

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I just bought a 4" 64, to exactly this.

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Would regular consumption of .38 +p be considered fine in a .357?  I’m looking to inherit a S&W19.  I already bought a spare barrel for it while they are still available but see no reason to burn out the forcing cone on the current one once it is mine.

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SNDT1319 posted:

Would regular consumption of .38 +p be considered fine in a .357?  I’m looking to inherit a S&W19.  I already bought a spare barrel for it while they are still available but see no reason to burn out the forcing cone on the current one once it is mine.

Should be just fine. Whether or not the extra cost etc. of .38+P is worth it is a different question. When I carry/shoot my 4" M66, I feel comfortable having standard velocity 158 grain SWCs in it.

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After not hearing from Ahrend's since they cashed my check in August, I called to check on my grips. The gal I talked to couldn't find my order and had to call me back (she was very nice). About an hour later she called and said they found it, and they'd make the grips the following Monday and ship them immediately. I got the impression they forgot about me but that's neither here nor there, because the grips arrived!

They feel great, and I love the look. Install was as easy and painless as could be expected. It feels a million times better than the stock ones. 

 

Now for a decent holster...

 

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 Whats the best way to store two Colt Trooper MK III 357 Magnum revolvers. I have others to shoot and to let my boys shoot.  I would like to store these in some type of container in my safe to avoid them getting safe dings etc. My safes are inside my home. 

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LobsterClaw207 posted:

After not hearing from Ahrend's since they cashed my check in August, I called to check on my grips. The gal I talked to couldn't find my order and had to call me back (she was very nice). About an hour later she called and said they found it, and they'd make the grips the following Monday and ship them immediately. I got the impression they forgot about me but that's neither here nor there, because the grips arrived!

They feel great, and I love the look. Install was as easy and painless as could be expected. It feels a million times better than the stock ones. 

 

Now for a decent holster...

 

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So was out groucery shopping and got a bit confused,I am ageing, and ended up at the LGS. Couple of Smiths in there on consignment. A 686-3 4in with some custom wood grips. Very clean gun look like little use or wear. The second one was a S&W M10-6 blue 4in bull with the blue box. Maybe the 686 is generally considered when you lay out all the features a better gun,stainless,357,adjustable sights etc., I went with the model 10. Blue collar deliever the mail gun and with 62  trips around the sun I've never owned a M&P. I think DB said something about how L frames just didn't "seem right". I agree. If I am going 357 its my 3 1/2 in 27. Anyway now to wait for another holster thinking Milt Sparks Summer Special. Something about revolers maybe its because they are all one piece unlike pistols which are gun and magazine.

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Nice snag.  If it was a duty gun or something, the 686 would have been the better choice. For pure retro fun, the simplicity and pure utility of the HB 10 is really nice.  Kind of how you would appreciate a 1960’s Pickup.  Super reliable with exactly what you need and nothing more.

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Linz posted:
Dorsai posted:
LobsterClaw207 posted:
 

Now for a decent holster...

 Monica?

Have heard of firearms having names but holsters?

Cock holsters do 

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I’m planning on keeping an eye on it but I’m assuming I’ll easily be priced out...I’ve been reading “Fast & Fancy Revolver Shooting” and a          6 1/2” 38/44 Woodsman is now on my list of beautiful things to own along with a 3 1/3” 27.

But that one...Good, God!!!

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Interesting piece and history. Always preferred the 4 inch in DA guns, and 5.5 in SAAs. Balancewise, those work best for me. My 6 inch 28 is awesome, but for work, I'd have gone 4 inch.

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Wow what a complete package deal. I'd just be happy with that S&W 38/44.

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That Smith is not going to bring as much as you might think. The engraving is questionable at best.  It would have been better stock with original grips . It will not garner any serious collector attention.

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Benton Quest posted:

That Smith is not going to bring as much as you might think. The engraving is questionable at best.  It would have been better stock with original grips . It will not garner any serious collector attention.

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Indeed....if you like what you see.  Don't get me wrong....it is a neat package. But...purist snobs will pass it by.  It will still bring a decent price though, just not astronomical.

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A couple of OLD Colts my Dad left me. 

38 DA also known as “Lightning”

Colt 41  I’m not sure what model it is. 

I have thought about doing the Colt Letter thing to see what they can tell me about them. 

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Benton Quest posted:

Indeed....if you like what you see.  Don't get me wrong....it is a neat package. But...purist snobs will pass it by.  It will still bring a decent price though, just not astronomical.

Yea, I totally get that. When I used to deal vintage guitars you’d come across ones that had been “personalized” (names inlaid on the frettboard), killed a lot of collector value but there were a small group of us who really liked them. You just had to buy them right and be prepared to be the last owner...

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3B139307-FE06-4760-8D4C-DA4525F4E7D4Need a touch of revolver advice/help.

I have a S&W 686 (top, .22lr 617 bottom)  It is of the early no-dash versions with the M stamp.  6” barrel with the non removable front sight.  It has been drilled and tapped for a scope mount.  Both the rear sight (square rear sight tang) and scope mount are gone.

I would really like to get an adjustable rear sight, with the hopes of making it a backup hunting pistol.  Any suggestions on a sight for these older models?

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Bowen Classic Arms used to make S&W sights and would drill the holes to your specs or sell them undrilled. I haven't been to their website in a while, and am unable to from my work computer.

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