RFI Duty Handgun Sights

My night sights on my Glock 35 are dying a slow death(  these are glock brand night sights,  on the gun since it was issued to me in 2012).  I bought the gun when I retired and carry it now at my Sheriffs Office gig.  I was leaning toward either Proctor sights of 10-8 sights with a tritium front. I've got oldish eyes. Any input would be appreciated. I'd consider a RMR but honestly, I'm a bit long into this to retrain myself.

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If fiber isn't optional Trijicon HD are very nearly as good.

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I have Trijicon HD sights on my G42 and G43 and Ameriglo Spartan Operator HD night sights on the G19, G22 and G35. I have always liked having orange on the front sight of my handguns

 

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I've had good experiences with Trijicon HDs on my G19.  I've also used Warren's 2 dot tritium sights with good effect, but if I bought another set, it would likely be the HDs in either color.  

Anecdotally, officers in my agency who have had eyesight issues have also reported improved shooting with the HDs.

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Longeye posted:

I suggest Dawson sights. Get the fiber optic front insert. Your old eyes will definitely thank you.

I finally got over the idea that fiber optics are "only for gamers" mentality.  Now I'm just pissed at myself that I waited too long to try them.   Have the Dawson's fiber optic front and Adj. black rear and absolutely love them on my 19X

On my Glocks, I run the Ameriglo agent sights, but like others, I've heard really good things about the Dawson sights recently. I see night sights as less necessary on guns that have a WML.

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pointblank4445 posted:
Longeye posted:

I suggest Dawson sights. Get the fiber optic front insert. Your old eyes will definitely thank you.

I finally got over the idea that fiber optics are "only for gamers" mentality.  Now I'm just pissed at myself that I waited too long to try them.   Have the Dawson's fiber optic front and Adj. black rear and absolutely love them on my 19X

I was in the same boat. Now I have them on all my pistols.

 

I have a set of Ameriglo UC that was put on my most recent carry gun; I like them, and will be switching the fleet that direction as I need to replace things.

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Somewhat related, my next GSSF coupon will be used for a G34MOS Gen5 (to be mated with a Deltapoint Pro). Anybody know of Dawsons tall enough to work with those? I know of one set of Ameriglos that will work.  I think I have to put some Dawsons on my G17L.

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Guys using the Dawson adjustable rear sights on duty guns...be careful. The windage screw is a weak point.

They are the go to sight in the competition world (I have them on multiple guns) but we’ve been seeing them break in the 7-8K round range pretty consistently.

One of the other guys on our shooting team was told by a Dawson rep. directly that they only have a 10,000 round expected lifespan. If I were to have these (very excellent) sights on a duty gun I’d probably be changing them out at the 6,000 round range just on principle. 

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hile posted:

Somewhat related, my next GSSF coupon will be used for a G34MOS Gen5 (to be mated with a Deltapoint Pro). Anybody know of Dawsons tall enough to work with those? I know of one set of Ameriglos that will work.  I think I have to put some Dawsons on my G17L.

Just picked my Gen 5 34MOS up today, Dawson sells one set specifically for the Gen 5 34 and literature says they won’t co-witness. 

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On a carry gun (g26) vice a duty gun, but I use 10-8s with a brass bead insert on the front site and u in the rear.   Very pleased as the brass picks up light well in low light.  I actually prefer it to the night sights on my wife’s  226 sao.  Plus no tritium to die over the years. 

Lots of suggestions for the HD's. I will offer my .02.

For 10 yards and in, or for realistic ranges for a duty gun, they work great. I practice on B-8's a lot from 15-20 yards and the front sight is just so fat it is difficult to do great precision work. Not saying it can't be done. Just challenging. When I would shoot out to 25 yards, I would have to bury the dot in the bottom of the U-notch to even be close to POA/ POI. Experience is from shooting IDPA/ IPSC/ Vickers 2 day handgun/ Carry Trainer Fighting pistol (1/2 or so of the class, borrowed gun from Boresight Solutions).

I have not tried the newest generation.

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Brock01 posted:

Lots of suggestions for the HD's. I will offer my .02.

For 10 yards and in, or for realistic ranges for a duty gun, they work great. I practice on B-8's a lot from 15-20 yards and the front sight is just so fat it is difficult to do great precision work. Not saying it can't be done. Just challenging. When I would shoot out to 25 yards, I would have to bury the dot in the bottom of the U-notch to even be close to POA/ POI. Experience is from shooting IDPA/ IPSC/ Vickers 2 day handgun/ Carry Trainer Fighting pistol (1/2 or so of the class, borrowed gun from Boresight Solutions).

I have not tried the newest generation.

HD XR front sight fixes your think front post issue.  It’s a HUGE difference. 

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ggammell posted:
Brock01 posted:

Lots of suggestions for the HD's. I will offer my .02.

For 10 yards and in, or for realistic ranges for a duty gun, they work great. I practice on B-8's a lot from 15-20 yards and the front sight is just so fat it is difficult to do great precision work. Not saying it can't be done. Just challenging. When I would shoot out to 25 yards, I would have to bury the dot in the bottom of the U-notch to even be close to POA/ POI. Experience is from shooting IDPA/ IPSC/ Vickers 2 day handgun/ Carry Trainer Fighting pistol (1/2 or so of the class, borrowed gun from Boresight Solutions).

I have not tried the newest generation.

HD XR front sight fixes your think front post issue.  It’s a HUGE difference. 

For the POA/POI difference? Shooting at distance? Or both?

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Brock01 posted:
ggammell posted:
Brock01 posted:

Lots of suggestions for the HD's. I will offer my .02.

For 10 yards and in, or for realistic ranges for a duty gun, they work great. I practice on B-8's a lot from 15-20 yards and the front sight is just so fat it is difficult to do great precision work. Not saying it can't be done. Just challenging. When I would shoot out to 25 yards, I would have to bury the dot in the bottom of the U-notch to even be close to POA/ POI. Experience is from shooting IDPA/ IPSC/ Vickers 2 day handgun/ Carry Trainer Fighting pistol (1/2 or so of the class, borrowed gun from Boresight Solutions).

I have not tried the newest generation.

HD XR front sight fixes your think front post issue.  It’s a HUGE difference. 

For the POA/POI difference? Shooting at distance? Or both?

Distance.  You can really see your target well compared to the original HD sight.

As far as shooting at distance and POA/POI what I’ve noticed is that the further you go, the lower you hold on the target.  Despite what seems like a 25 yard “zero” from the factory most sights are nowhere close.  Some as close as 5 yards, some maybe 15. 

So learning this, I go through a zeroing exercise with all sights. Starting at 5 yards then move out 1 yard at a time to establish a true POA/POI.  Once that’s done, move back to the common distances yous train at, ie 15 yards then 25, etc and figure out what your hold is.  

For instance, the HD XRs on my G27 are POA/POI around 7 yards.  At 15 I have to cut the target in half with the front sight to get the rounds were they need to be. At 25, I’m lollipopping the target right on top of the front sight for good impact location.  

I get a similar result with the factory glock night sights on my 22 and the suppressor height ameriglo’s on a G19 Roland.

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That's what I thought you meant. I'd be curious to try a set of the new ones. I do like my ameriglo Defoor sights for distance though.

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Any thoughts on the TruGlo TFX tritium/fiber combos?

I haven't seen much lately on LF, and I've seen other reviews saying the sight picture is off (dots line up but traditional tops of sights don't).

I prefer a bright dot up front and blacked out rears but as age rears its ugly head with eyesight, I'm finding a brighter dot helps. I'm tempted to go with just a fiber front (or maybe even the brass bead) and rely on the throw from my WML in low light / dark, but based on my how I read the input from others on this more with more experience that I have, night sights (at least up front) are a must on a SD/Duty gun.

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