Rubberized DOPE cards

There is a guy on snipershide that makes these very cool DOPE cards that attach via Velcro (included).  After you acquire your data for your rifle, you can write it down on the card for easy access.  You can use any variety of pens and clean them off with acetone if you wish to reuse them.  They are $15 each.

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pointblank4445 posted:

Huh...I've just been writing on my stocks with Sharpies.  

Well, you Sir are a fucking barbarian. 

Marine Scout Snipers are trying them out.  Don’t know what that means in the grander scheme of things but it has to be better than a broke dick attorney’s recommendation.

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HRH The Most Reverend Consig

"I'm always down for good beer and the potential for violence." Fellow LFer. 

 Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. 

 

 Joined: 28 Nov 2004: 0037hrs        Location: The worst run state in the U.S

Consigliere posted:
pointblank4445 posted:

Huh...I've just been writing on my stocks with Sharpies.  

Well, you Sir are a fucking barbarian. 

 

You know it, bro

I'll rattle can a $10,000 sniper rig just cause I'm bored and not think twice about it.

A coach's wrist band, a bunch of 3x5 note cards and a sharpie can get you a long ways too if one is to squeamish to sharpie their baseline dope onto their guns.  I've also printed out super tiny DOPE sheets and clear taped them to my switch-caliber guns too...but that requires a bit more prior planning than. 

Triad's apparently going to stock these rubber dope thingy's too:

https://www.triadtactical.com/

A PVC dope patch, now that's an idea... We've been printing or writing our DOPE on loose leaf Rite in the Rain and then using heavy duty laminating blanks to further weatherproof them.

Joined: 9/2/10                        Location: Northern Kentucky

Whootsinator posted:

A PVC dope patch, now that's an idea... We've been printing or writing our DOPE on loose leaf Rite in the Rain and then using heavy duty laminating blanks to further weatherproof them.

Thank you.  Obviously a man of high intelligence and superior breeding.  

In addition to acetone, Goo Gone also works.

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

HRH The Most Reverend Consig

"I'm always down for good beer and the potential for violence." Fellow LFer. 

 Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. 

 

 Joined: 28 Nov 2004: 0037hrs        Location: The worst run state in the U.S

I made an Excel template with enough spots for distances from 100 to 1400 in 25y increments. I fill in my data from AB for varying DAs (for each caliber, I find the shift in DA that gives a .2 mil difference in elevation at 1k, then make a chart for every X of DA. For my 6 Creedmoor, it's 1250FT per .2, so 0, 1250, 2500, 3750, etc) and take them to the local office supply store to be heavy-duty laminated. Stick Velcro on the back, and viola - custom DOPE card. Even then, it's still only a backup for my Kestrel and AB Mobile on my phone, or for when the MD at a PRS match makes us shoot some kind of blind stage where I need the chart.

Saw something new (to me) this weekend...

Rather than this or the coach's wrist band, guys had these little credit-card sized white card looking pieces that had velcro backing and they would afix them to a wrist strap, their optics (and could see them without adjusting position), or their rifle. 

Supposed to be like a dry-erase/white board but some dudes were writing their stage dope on masking/painter's tape and just peeling that off before the next stage.  Pretty slick...

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

pointblank4445 posted:

Saw something new (to me) this weekend...

Rather than this or the coach's wrist band, guys had these little credit-card sized white card looking pieces that had velcro backing and they would afix them to a wrist strap, their optics (and could see them without adjusting position), or their rifle. 

Supposed to be like a dry-erase/white board but some dudes were writing their stage dope on masking/painter's tape and just peeling that off before the next stage.  Pretty slick...

You probably saw an Armageddon Gear arm board kit, or something very similar. I run one of those, plus a Hawk Hill data card holder that attaches on top of my Spuhr scope mount (they make a picatinny mount version, too). I cut a smaller piece of Kydex for the Spuhr  that is about half the size of one of the white cards, and cut a couple cards down to match. With the Hawk Hill holder mounted on top of the scope, I can fold it to either side or point it straight up so it is visible from either strong or weak side. It's great for holdover stages at matches. The AG arm board is what I use for 90% of a match, though. I just write each stage's data down on it as I get to the stage, then draw a box around it after the stage. I can get 8-10 stages of data on one card, then have it handy if I need to review it later. Being able to look back at previous stage data has saved my ass at matches before, which is why I don't use tape and peel it off every stage - plus then I don't need tape. The Sharpie (or Stadtler marker) ink comes off with rubbing alcohol (either the little wipes used in the medical field, or a little cheap fingertip pump spray bottle from WalMart loaded with 91%) and once it's dry it's pretty water-proof. Writing on a wet card sucks, but oh well. I can hide it under a rain jacket or get under a roof if I need to.

For the white cards themselves, you can order plain ID card blanks off Amazon for about $10-12 per 100. Add a little industrial strength peel and stick Velcro to the back, and you can have as many spares as you want/need for cheap. I keep a pile of cards and extra rolls of Velcro stashed in my reloading room so I always have supplies to make more if I need it. I usually have 6-8 in my pack when I go to a match.

Yep, that's what I was seeing.

And damn right on saving the dope from previous stages...saved me from even more misses on day 2 being able to reference what worked on day one and helped me to realize that my actual dope was about +0.15 - 0.2 mils more than what my solver was giving me.

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

pointblank4445 posted:

Yep, that's what I was seeing.

And damn right on saving the dope from previous stages...saved me from even more misses on day 2 being able to reference what worked on day one and helped me to realize that my actual dope was about +0.15 - 0.2 mils more than what my solver was giving me.

What are you using for running data?

WoodenPlank posted:
pointblank4445 posted:

Yep, that's what I was seeing.

And damn right on saving the dope from previous stages...saved me from even more misses on day 2 being able to reference what worked on day one and helped me to realize that my actual dope was about +0.15 - 0.2 mils more than what my solver was giving me.

What are you using for running data?

AB  on my busted ass IPhone 5.  Didn't help that the 130gr Prime...which I started shooting about 10 days before the match was a fresh endeavor

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

pointblank4445 posted:
WoodenPlank posted:
pointblank4445 posted:

Yep, that's what I was seeing.

And damn right on saving the dope from previous stages...saved me from even more misses on day 2 being able to reference what worked on day one and helped me to realize that my actual dope was about +0.15 - 0.2 mils more than what my solver was giving me.

What are you using for running data?

AB  on my busted ass IPhone 5.  Didn't help that the 130gr Prime...which I started shooting about 10 days before the match was a fresh endeavor

Yeah, changing ammo that close to a match usually doesn't end well. I've had good luck with AB Mobile, especially when using the custom drag curves. My phone is only a backup now since I have a 5700 Kestrel, and the Kestrel is my primary for everything.

Yeah...I was kind of up against a wall and rolled with what I had enough of.  It's not like I was a threat to anyone except for maybe the dudes who wanted to keep their name off the bottom of the last page at the end of day 2  :/

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

pointblank4445 posted:

Yeah...I was kind of up against a wall and rolled with what I had enough of.  It's not like I was a threat to anyone except for maybe the dudes who wanted to keep their name off the bottom of the last page at the end of day 2  :/

First matches are rough for almost everyone - even dudes that are legit badass shooters. One of the guys I know from the PRS is a former USASOC match winner, and he got up and told the story of his first PRS match at the finale in 2015. We'll just say it didn't go well for him, but he learned from the experience (and more matches after that) and it made him a better shooter. My first PRS match was a train wreck (and so was the second one), but since then I've racked up top 10 and top 20 finishes. It's definitely a game that requires some specific mindset and skills, but those same things can then translate back into other areas - MIL or LE work, and even hunting applications.

Sooooooo....no one digs my dope cards is what I am picking up here.

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

HRH The Most Reverend Consig

"I'm always down for good beer and the potential for violence." Fellow LFer. 

 Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. 

 

 Joined: 28 Nov 2004: 0037hrs        Location: The worst run state in the U.S

Consigliere posted:

Sooooooo....no one digs my dope cards is what I am picking up here.

It's an interesting take on keeping data handy, but it's not really a stand-out from other ways of doing it, either. I'm nothing but a competitive shooter (no LE/MIL background or work), so what is 'Meh' to me might be just the ticket for one of those user groups. For my use, I'm shooting 99% KD targets with plenty of time ahead of time to run dope on my Kestrel for each range and write them down on my arm board. I rarely revert to a physical DOPE chart any more, and in most cases I just knock one up on a spare card before the stage if I need one (For, say, a blind stage with a short time limit.)

The flip side is I think it would actually be kinda funky as a morale patch (with or without scribbled data). If not for the limited amount of Velcro on my match pack, I'd seriously consider snagging one just to stick on there.

I just picked up a few of these cards. They will fit nicely onto the flat stock recess on my KRG X-ray. I’m going to give them a workout at a few classes and training over the next few months, then a mountain hunting trip this fall. I think these will last a lot better than rite-in-the rain that I’m taping to the stock now. Plus I can peel it off and stick it to my Velcro arm board during a stage. 

Location: Mississippi

Not a whole lot of doping when you only have a 100yd range

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Malpaso posted:

Not a whole lot of doping when you only have a 100yd range

  Anybody ever tell you you’re a funny motherfucker?  Probably not.

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

HRH The Most Reverend Consig

"I'm always down for good beer and the potential for violence." Fellow LFer. 

 Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done. 

 

 Joined: 28 Nov 2004: 0037hrs        Location: The worst run state in the U.S

Consigliere posted:
Malpaso posted:

Not a whole lot of doping when you only have a 100yd range

  Anybody ever tell you you’re a funny motherfucker?  Probably not.

I've been told half of that. I'll let you decide which half.

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It's not that life is so short, it's that you're dead for so long.

The .45-70 is the only government I trust

"I was raised in a place called America...
It's gone now, I wish you could've seen it"
- a WWII vet

 

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Consigliere posted:

Sooooooo....no one digs my dope cards is what I am picking up here.

Yeah, Woodplank brings up some good points.

For bigger targets/Minute-of-Dude its a neat semi-permanent option for a duty gun and hand reference for ballparking general UKD/Swagging.

From what I just experienced, probably not so great for the CONSTANT tweeking of minor environmental changes at engaging smaller targets with less margin of error. 

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

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