Safariland hardwire soft armor

 Anybody have experience with these panels? Looking to use the hardwire 9 for patrol, also looking at PB alpha elite, but supposedly the HW is lighter, thinner and offers better protection. Appreciate the feedback. 

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I am issued the Alpha Elite and its pretty comfortable.  Got a chance to play with (but not wear) the hardwire stuff at TTPOA fairly recently and it is thinner and lighter, but not a ton.  Definitely is top tier stuff, but you are paying top tier pricing.  If I was paying, Id buy the Alpha Elite again.  If agency bought, Id push for the hardwire but not be disappointed with the Alpha Elite. 

SoTex posted:

I am issued the Alpha Elite and its pretty comfortable.  Got a chance to play with (but not wear) the hardwire stuff at TTPOA fairly recently and it is thinner and lighter, but not a ton.  Definitely is top tier stuff, but you are paying top tier pricing.  If I was paying, Id buy the Alpha Elite again.  If agency bought, Id push for the hardwire but not be disappointed with the Alpha Elite. 

Apparently point blank and Safariland both went after the hardwire and Safariland won the contract. Point blank is trying to catch up with the alpha elite black. Haven't seen much about the black. What was the price on the regular alpha elite?

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scsu74 posted:
SoTex posted:

I am issued the Alpha Elite and its pretty comfortable.  Got a chance to play with (but not wear) the hardwire stuff at TTPOA fairly recently and it is thinner and lighter, but not a ton.  Definitely is top tier stuff, but you are paying top tier pricing.  If I was paying, Id buy the Alpha Elite again.  If agency bought, Id push for the hardwire but not be disappointed with the Alpha Elite. 

Apparently point blank and Safariland both went after the hardwire and Safariland won the contract. Point blank is trying to catch up with the alpha elite black. Haven't seen much about the black. What was the price on the regular alpha elite?

Not 100%, agency paid.  My understanding was around the 700 mark and that has been over a year ago when it was the new hotness.    I can try to get an exact number if its needed.

SoTex posted:
scsu74 posted:
SoTex posted:

I am issued the Alpha Elite and its pretty comfortable.  Got a chance to play with (but not wear) the hardwire stuff at TTPOA fairly recently and it is thinner and lighter, but not a ton.  Definitely is top tier stuff, but you are paying top tier pricing.  If I was paying, Id buy the Alpha Elite again.  If agency bought, Id push for the hardwire but not be disappointed with the Alpha Elite. 

Apparently point blank and Safariland both went after the hardwire and Safariland won the contract. Point blank is trying to catch up with the alpha elite black. Haven't seen much about the black. What was the price on the regular alpha elite?

Not 100%, agency paid.  My understanding was around the 700 mark and that has been over a year ago when it was the new hotness.    I can try to get an exact number if its needed.

Nah, was just curious

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We pay 750 for the PB Alpha. Also just had a save with the vest about 2 weeks ago.  Great vest only complaint is the carrier could use a little work. I have not had a chance to look at the Safariland for comparison. 

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scsu74 posted:

Ended up ordering a set, paid $875 for the panels. Seemed reasonable to me, better than our state contract price of $1,150. This test sold me on them:

 

https://youtu.be/YdWBPhObwtk

Greetings,

     I checked out the Safariland website and although they do not have the "Hardwire 9" panels you spoke of, they do have a "Hardwire" series that I am interested in. What kind of carrier did you get for those panels? 

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Was able to take a look at the Black and the  hardwire. Wearing them both I felt the hardwire was more stiff and did not give as much as the black. Wearing the elite everyday you could tell the difference between the elite the black and the hardwire. Going with any of them you can not go wrong. 

"This is my shield. I bear it before me in to battle, but it is not mine alone. It protects my brother on my left. It protects my city. I will never let my brother out of its shadow nor my city out of its shelter. I will die with my shield before me facing the enemy."

I wear the Safariland Hardwire soft armor off/on almost daily. My panels are made for a Mayflower  LPAAC and it's the best soft armor I've ever worn. Super thin and light.

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Shadow45 posted:

I wear the Safariland Hardwire soft armor off/on almost daily. My panels are made for a Mayflower  LPAAC and it's the best soft armor I've ever worn. Super thin and light.

Do they bend and give? I wear an older "Armor Express IIIA and it gets the job done, but has no give. If I drop a pen in the car, I have to get out and stretch out to retrieve it. This is the main reason I'm looking for something else.

"Would you believe we're the good guys?" : Remo Williams

Dryden posted:
Shadow45 posted:

I wear the Safariland Hardwire soft armor off/on almost daily. My panels are made for a Mayflower  LPAAC and it's the best soft armor I've ever worn. Super thin and light.

Do they bend and give? I wear an older "Armor Express IIIA and it gets the job done, but has no give. If I drop a pen in the car, I have to get out and stretch out to retrieve it. This is the main reason I'm looking for something else.

I know what you are talking about. I had some panels once that were like thick cardboard and about as inflexible as they could be.  The hardwire panels are somewhat flexible but not extremely flexible. That being said, they are super thin, which helps out immensely with mobility. I have other panels that are softer/more flexible but also thicker & heavier. No question, I would take the hardwire panels every time.

Try to see a set in person if you can. 

Joined: November 19, 2002          Location: Jacksonville, FL

Dryden posted:
scsu74 posted:

Ended up ordering a set, paid $875 for the panels. Seemed reasonable to me, better than our state contract price of $1,150. This test sold me on them:

 

https://youtu.be/YdWBPhObwtk

Greetings,

     I checked out the Safariland website and although they do not have the "Hardwire 9" panels you spoke of, they do have a "Hardwire" series that I am interested in. What kind of carrier did you get for those panels? 

I'm using this carrier: http://www.safariland.com/prod...er-P1_C.html#start=1

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Dryden posted:
Shadow45 posted:

I wear the Safariland Hardwire soft armor off/on almost daily. My panels are made for a Mayflower  LPAAC and it's the best soft armor I've ever worn. Super thin and light.

Do they bend and give? I wear an older "Armor Express IIIA and it gets the job done, but has no give. If I drop a pen in the car, I have to get out and stretch out to retrieve it. This is the main reason I'm looking for something else.

Yep, super comfortable after break in. Took me about a month. First week it felt like I was choking myself, it sucked. Glad I rode it out, can hardly tell I'm wearing a vest now. 

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I hope this purported "test" did not "sell" anybody on anything, as it was done very poorly:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be.  

None of the shots were contact ones, as demonstrated in the photos below. 

In addition, in the rapid fire test of .40, the shots appeared to be intentionally spaced around the armor, rather than being placed in the same location.

A lot of smoke and mirrors and advertising hype, not an accurate or useful test event.....

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DocGKR posted:

I hope this purported "test" did not "sell" anybody on anything, as it was done very poorly:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be.  

None of the shots were contact ones, as demonstrated in the photos below. 

In addition, in the rapid fire test of .40, the shots appeared to be intentionally spaced around the armor, rather than being placed in the same location.

A lot of smoke and mirrors and advertising hype, not an accurate or useful test event.....

Have you had a chance to test it yet?

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Last contract I saw for the FBI was 4 years ago for the PB Alpha Elite.

Since no agency here has asked for a test of the Hardwire, we have not done so.

Keep in mind that Hardwire may be a fantastic soft armor, however, the linked video does NOT in anyway demonstrate that.  No contact shots, random shot spacing, non-elastic backing material, etc... all make it nothing more than advertising fluff to dupe ignorant officers.  Also, how does this armor do in environmental extremes and after aging? 

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