@pointblank4445 why did you get rid of the Razor? It seems obvious that you much prefer the Kahles, but what would you say about the razor to those of us who can’t justify the big jump in price?
I can pick up a Razor with mount from Geissele from $1400. Kahles is $2000 plus the cost of a mount. So you’re looking at a MINIMUM of $600 more.
Thats a big jump for me
My "getting rid of" things is not an indication of good or bad. Look through this while thread and realize many of the optics I discuss are cycled out. Case in point, that 1.5-8x26 I offered you, I speak VERY highly of, but I'm still selling it. I like doing what I do and I share my observations so others don't have to drop the time and money I have.
Be careful on some of those package deals. I know Geissele was advertising them as the pre-"E" model that are 1/4 lb heavier (the chunky 25oz. or whatever).
I've said time and time again, at the following price point marks (depending how hard you hunt or discounts you can get):
$500ish - Steiner P4Xi is the standard; it's excellent and the only thing I would approve of at this price point
$1000ish - Razor 1-6 HD 2-E is the standard.
$1500-2000 - Kahles 16i is the standard (sorry NX8 lovers)
$2000+ - The world is your oyster
The more money you have, the more picky you can be. Given that the S&B Short Dot 1.1-4x20 back in the day was $2300-2400, it's been remarkable to see how close the Steiner comes to it at 1/4 the price and how time and tech has caught up to where the Razor -E model can deliver MORE for 1/2 the cost. I think those optics are amazing for what they can do at their price points considering what the Gold (and only) standard was 12 years ago.
In addition to my perception of looking through the optic, I simply believe that the Kahles is a better-built optic. Same as the Vortex Razor is a better built optic than the Steiner. They all give you very good, usable optics. In this lengthy thread and optic descriptions, I try to convey that I am EXTREMELY picky about how I use my optics but I try to apply the same context without price being a contributing factor. When I compared the Kahles vs the Razor HD, I wasn't really factoring price...merely performance and preference. I still think both are great, but both have major flaws. Cherry pick certain features from either and you could have maybe the perfect 1-6 LPVO...in a perfect world.
Price justification is simply down to you and your needs, wants, and budget.
And if you shop around, you can get Razors closer to $1300 and Kahles closer to $1800 with the used/demo market being a touch less.