As a follow up to my post from many moons ago in this thread:

I never got the information from the ivory tower on if/when select loads were performed in any of our shotgun OIS.  I honestly got the impression they had no idea where to look, and did not want to make the effort for a peasant firearms instructor like me.

We never did go to the Winchester segmented slug.  Instead, the powers that be realized that an AR platform carbine was far more effective across the board.  We gave back all the shotguns and are now issued Sionic Patrol 3 rifles with the agency logo, etc engraved on them.  If you are curious, I am in a mountain state that redefined “Rocky Mountain high” several years ago.  The Sonics rifles have been good to go so far, and more importantly there are no more issues with select loads and “recoil sensitivity” with our micro-cops and admin weenies. Still issue the less than optimal 55 grain Federal ammo, but that gripe belongs in another thread.

At home I still keep my personal 870 Police Magnum ready with Federal 00 Buck - the LE reduced recoil with flight control wad we used to issue.  For a shotgun load, I liked it and had good luck with it not opening up too much for the realistic range of the street howitzer.  I still think the shotgun has a lot of utility for tasks inside its performance envelope, and is quite dangerous when you put in the training to use and understand it.

CSPartan posted:

As a follow up to my post from many moons ago in this thread:

I never got the information from the ivory tower on if/when select loads were performed in any of our shotgun OIS.  I honestly got the impression they had no idea where to look, and did not want to make the effort for a peasant firearms instructor like me.

Thank you for the follow-up.

Sorry--been working a lot. 

Shotgun slugs are used when you want to penetrate something; they also allow better accuracy at longer ranges out to 100 meters or so. Buckshot shreds tissue, but typically offers less penetration and reduced accuracy at longer ranges.

Much like bonded buckshot, segmented slugs try to offer better accuracy, but reduced penetration.  They work fine on unobstructed shots and also penetrate some barriers, but nothing like a deep penetrating slug, such as a Brenneke.

DocGKR posted:

Sorry--been working a lot. 

Shotgun slugs are used when you want to penetrate something; they also allow better accuracy at longer ranges out to 100 meters or so. Buckshot shreds tissue, but typically offers less penetration and reduced accuracy at longer ranges.

Much like bonded buckshot, segmented slugs try to offer better accuracy, but reduced penetration.  They work fine on unobstructed shots and also penetrate some barriers, but nothing like a deep penetrating slug, such as a Brenneke.

Are you aware of any injury to uninvolved third parties by over-pentration of a slug, through a body or other barrier?

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