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Joined: 9/30/09
Location: Northern Nevada (Reno/Sparks)

Sorry brethren.

So much for using that rat bastard Google Drive. It's a shame because in one of the pics was a hidden code word that if you said it 5 minutes ago would have won you $100 dollar coupon towards a brand new Bolex watch. 

When I get to Brazil I'll get it ironed out.  

“Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word”. J. Steinbeck

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight."  LTC Jeff Cooper


 

firemission4mortars posted:

 Wow , Robert, my back hurts just looking at that MAV. You're right ,I never wished for less ammo ,but I did wish I could prone out flatter.If it works for you , then it works for you.

As it should brother.  I wore it about 6 hours training on Saturday in the Texas heat and it was talking to my lower back towards the end of the day. But I attribute that more to my lard ass being out of shape, but you are right, it's no BFG Ten Speed.  I have a Ten Speed I use when I'm zeroing and such But compared to that Ten Speed?  It does have heft.

 One  thing my friend taught me that a senior NCO taught him who was on the first ODA he was assigned to was that many view chest rigs as a fancy or glorified ammo carrier, but they are much more than that- it's a life support system.  So it was with that mentality, and adaptability  that this rig was built.  I've ran it when running my Beez and yes here in Texas I sweated my gonads off and I definitely felt it in my back, but I consider that an acceptable consequence.

It is still a 2 piece MAV.  You can open the front of this rig and go full prone, just release the velcro center piece.  I found a few pics that shows how it works.  The drawback is noise discipline.  That Velcro ain't exactly quiet.  But if I were ever in that situation I'd just unhook the 2 hooks.

The last pic shows the versatility of the universal mag pouch.  (thought I'd use a different word than adaptability. Lol)  The mag pouch has a holster in it and my G19 fits perfectly.

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Are our weapons considered part of this particular thread?  I've seen a mixed bag of posts,  but a lot of empty holsters.  In my mind it make sense because it's a core piece of our kit. But what the heck do I know? I've made like 4 posts here.  :-)

“Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word”. J. Steinbeck

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight."  LTC Jeff Cooper


 

RTT

What is/where did you get the scissor pouch for the trauma shears?

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Doug

If I mention Corona, I ain't talking about beer.

 

"It's your turn to do until it's not."  TA

 

"Afterall.... if you get yourself into a fair fight.. you really haven't learned anything in all the time you have spent on Lightfighter, your tactics suck, and you don't deserve to breed."  David Reeves

 

JOINED:  9/20/09     LOCATION:  Outside of KSA Finally!

yakc130 posted:

RTT

What is/where did you get the scissor pouch for the trauma shears?

Yak,

The insert comes with the ifak.  Here's a link for the one you see on my rig.  

S.O. Viper Flat ifak, A1

https://sotechtactical.com/products/vfifaka1

 

“Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word”. J. Steinbeck

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight."  LTC Jeff Cooper


 

Shit! I just wanted to get a shear pouch.

Now it looks like I may need to buy another IFAK just due to the sheer awesomeness of that of that one and it's flatness.

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Doug

If I mention Corona, I ain't talking about beer.

 

"It's your turn to do until it's not."  TA

 

"Afterall.... if you get yourself into a fair fight.. you really haven't learned anything in all the time you have spent on Lightfighter, your tactics suck, and you don't deserve to breed."  David Reeves

 

JOINED:  9/20/09     LOCATION:  Outside of KSA Finally!

RobertTheTexan posted:

Are our weapons considered part of this particular thread?  I've seen a mixed bag of posts,  but a lot of empty holsters.  In my mind it make sense because it's a core piece of our kit. But what the heck do I know? I've made like 4 posts here.  :-)

So an unmodified mag pouch doubles well as a MOLLE flapped holster?  Hmmmmm.

yakc130 posted:

Shit! I just wanted to get a shear pouch.

Now it looks like I may need to buy another IFAK just due to the sheer awesomeness of that of that one and it's flatness.

That's why this has become my favorite.  It's flatter, and shorter.  It drops take up more PALS webbing than other more narrow pouches, but if you have the room, the it works well.  My man point to get it was to gain more clearance between my ifak and my pistol.

“Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word”. J. Steinbeck

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight."  LTC Jeff Cooper


 

Linz posted:
RobertTheTexan posted:

Are our weapons considered part of this particular thread?  I've seen a mixed bag of posts,  but a lot of empty holsters.  In my mind it make sense because it's a core piece of our kit. But what the heck do I know? I've made like 4 posts here.  :-)

So an unmodified mag pouch doubles well as a MOLLE flapped holster?  Hmmmmm.

That pouch will hold two .308/SR25 mags, which is pretty sizable.  The holster I used in the pouch was a universal holster that holds up to a full size Glock, M9, or a 1911.  There could be some pistol or revolver that wouldn't fit, but I can't think of one off hand. At least nothing that's common to our community.

yakc130 posted:

Shit! I just wanted to get a shear pouch.

Now it looks like I may need to buy another IFAK just due to the sheer awesomeness of that of that one and it's flatness.

That's why this has become my favorite.  It's flatter, and shorter.  It drops take up more PALS webbing than other more narrow pouches, but if you have the room, the it works well.  My man point to get it was to gain more clearance between my ifak and my pistol.

“Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word”. J. Steinbeck

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight."  LTC Jeff Cooper


 

Matched pair of belt setups.  MC rig is for classes and practice; black rig I use at the range at work so I look more or less like the rest of the guys.  Current role is security management.  I ride a desk and I don't carry a gun at work, but I did for six years, so I still keep these set up for the rare occasion I can get out to the range at work and shoot with my guys.  Pouch setups are identical between the two.
 
  • Crye MRB with Ares Gear Aegis Enhanced inner belt upgrade
  • Esstac KYWI double pistol gap pouch
  • HSGI Pistol Taco holding SF Peacemaker/Fury DF
  • Esstac KYWI 5.56 shorty
  • Grimloc holding PIG FDT-Delta gloves
  • BFG Ten-Speed Ultralight Dump Pouch
  • BFG Micro Trauma Kit Now
  • SORD Tourniquet Cover w/CAT
  • Safariland 6390 for VP9 + TLR-1 HL / 7390 for M9, ALS Nub Mod, QLS19/22 attachment, mid-ride UBL w/single leg strap
 
I'm pretty happy with these rigs.  When still carrying a gun for a living, I had an Ares Gear LE Duty Belt for work use.  On the range, I went through a progression of different battle belts, including the HSGI SGPB, Ares Armor Micro Belt, VelSyst OUB, and Volund Micro Battle Belt.  I still appreciate the value of belt keepers for an LE/security duty role in which one might be expected to go hands-on; were I still working on shift, I would probably be using a Volund MBB in order to be able to continue using keepers while also having MOLLE compatibility.  Now that my gear is pretty much only for range use for skills sustainment, I'm comfortable with just hook and loop inner/outer belts to keep things from shifting around.
 
I definitely like how close to the hips these belts ride.  An issue I always had with the thicker warbelts like the VelSyst OUB was that the padding kicked the holster out another half inch or so from my hip.  When combined with a QLS setup, the holster was noticeably offset when compared to my duty belt setup with holster directly attached to the UBL (even using a pair of T-spacers).  The difference in holster positioning caused some issues with training consistency and establishing a firing grip on the pistol at speed.
 
Enter the Crye MRB.  Initially, I was hesitant to like this belt because of the, well, floppy nature of the belt sleeve.  In fact, I actually purchased my first MRB in late 2014, then turned around and sold it, only returning to it in 2017 and upgrading to the Ares Aegis Enhanced as a liner based on @Longeye's recommendation.  I'm of the opinion that the Aegis Enhanced is the belt to use as a liner for the MRB.  While I was at first concerned about holster slop using a 2" UBL on a 1.5" belt, the MRB sleeve is snug enough around the liner belt that the UBL really doesn't have much room to shift up or down.  The addition of the single leg strap adds stability.  I don't think the leg strap is mandatory, and if I was doing a lot of sitting with this rig, I would probably rethink the strap, or go with a DFA/shroud combo instead of a UBL.  But for pure range work, it's workable.
 
A note on the positioning of the Taco and handheld light.  With my preferred beer can grip when reloading the rifle, if the light were to be behind the rifle KYWI, I would either be grabbing the light and the mag at the same time, or scraping my fingers on the light trying to squeeze around the mag without grabbing the light.  I know because I tried.  I also like having the rifle mag slightly behind my hip, as I can more easily rotate my wrist to grab it (the closer to the centerline of my body, the less rearward range of motion I have with my wrist without chicken-winging like crazy.  Hence the somewhat unusual position of the light between the pistol and rifle mags.
 
The KYWIs and Taco are attached with WTFix straps.  These are far superior to MALICE clips.  They might not seem rigid enough at first glance, but in reality they do a great job of snugly holding pouches to the belt, and they're a lot easier to weave.
 
The dump pouch, I rarely use.  But it's light enough that I don't mind having it on there just in case.  Last time I took a rifle class, I forewent the dumper and just added another shorty rifle mag pouch in the same location.  Two on the belt plus one in the gun was sufficient to make it to the next break and opportunity to jam mags in that relatively low round count class.  If I need more rifle ammo than that, I would probably prefer to add a chest rig rather than deal with a dangling dumper.  Speaking of chest rigs...
 
  • BFG RACKminus w/DownRangeGear Dynamic Strap System waist strap upgrade
  • FirstSpear Tourniquet Pouch w/CAT
  • SORD 60 Round Collapsible M4 pouches
  • Tyr MUT pouch w/Leatherman MUT
 
This is a fairly lightweight setup.  I've lost a bit of weight over the past year and I really need to go to a smaller chest rig.  At the moment I have the waist strap cranked down as far as it will go and it is barely tight enough.  Furthermore, there are obviously a couple columns of MOLLE on the left and right that I'm not using.  Nice thing about the BFG design is that the additional real estate is still very breathable because of the laser cut slots, and the ULTRAcomp material is so light there's not much reason to go with a smaller rig if your torso is big enough.  The base rig here will probably end up getting replaced with a placard and chest rig adapter from VelSyst so I can swap between chest rig and plate carrier, a nice benefit if I ever get around to making the pilgrimage to Alliance for a shoothouse class.
 
Is the second TQ necessary?  Nah, not for my civilian needs, but the only time I'm wearing this thing is when using a rifle, and if I'm using a rifle... yeah, makes sense to have some redundancy there.  Multitool is on this rig for the same rifle-specific purpose (namely, clearing a bolt override).
 
The flapped SORD pouches are a holdover from having this set up to mirror my old duty rig, and I was mandated to used closed-top mag pouches at the time.  If forced to do so, I really like the SORD pouches.  They have a rigid plastic insert in the lids which helps keep the lids up and out of the way when you open them to reload, unlike most other M4 pouches, with which the lids tend to flop around and get in the way of establishing a solid grip on the mag.  While these are technically double mag pouches, I only carry three mags on the rig.  While the doubles don't hold the mags as snugly as would singles, having a little bit of extra room in the pouches is conducive to how I grasp the magazines.  Now that I'm not trying to use this as a practice rig to replicate a work setup, the SORD pouches will end up getting replaced with tall KYWIs; they're plenty secure for my purposes, and a tad faster.
 
No black duplicate to this rig... if I'm wearing black at work, I'm breaking out the heavier LPAAC, which is set up very similar.  Think that about sums it up.

Joined: 2JAN2004

Location: South Florida

Casey, I started sight the double KYWI  pouches and found they were too close together and caused my pistol mags to snag so I went with singles and have been running them for the past couple of years but they kind of shift a bit...how are you finding the new double “gap” models?

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

XTCBX posted:

Casey, I started sight the double KYWI  pouches and found they were too close together and caused my pistol mags to snag so I went with singles and have been running them for the past couple of years but they kind of shift a bit...how are you finding the new double “gap” models?

I like them.  My Beretta mags have short enough baseplates that I can get away with the regular double pouch, but VP9 baseplates protrude a tad more, so there is some value there in the increased separation.

Joined: 2JAN2004

Location: South Florida

After trying a lot of different things I think I have a pretty adaptable setup for range sessions and the eventual apocalypse. The key attributes I was looking for when I put this together was flexibility in using all or parts of the setup without leaving myself lacking anything critical. The multiple colour thing I have going on is because I originally bought components in coyote brown, then wanted to switch to Ranger green and have finally settled on mixing to hopefully add an element of camouflage overall (and to save re-buying a lot of stuff).

I would very much appreciate any feedback or challenges to my selections.




Beginning on the bottom there are two belt setups.

The upper coyote brown one is the linchpin of the whole arrangement. It's modeled after the very cool CRO Medical Hybrid IFAK ( https://cromedical.com/products/cro-ifak-bag-only ) using a spare modular admin pouch I had lying around. Eventually I will stitch together something similar in Ranger green to replace it since the pouch is not perfectly sized for what I want. Contents are:

  • 2 x CAT tourniquets (would prefer outboard of the pouch like the CRO has them)
  • 1 x 4" compression bandage (would prefer 6")
  • 2 x Combat Gauze
  • 2 x Chest seals
  • 1 x gloves
  • 1 x shears


The rationale for the completely separate IFAK is that I am often at the range alone doing one of pistol, AR or long range PRS style shooting. I have always had an IFAK attached to my range bag (where it's helpful for others) but if I had an emergency situation away from my bag it could be a long way away. With the stand alone IFAK I now have one I can wear even while prone behind a long gun or even while doing positional shooting. It also means I no longer have to squirrel away medical supplies in each individual component in the event that I don't wear them all (i.e., chest rig without battle belt).

I am familiar with all the medical supplies in the kit and their use. I have not received formal training on needle decompression not NPA airways so I have not included those items in the kit.

Moving on to the lower battle belt. The base is the CTOMS G2 ( http://ctoms.ca/Mission-Essent...With-ITW-Buckle.html  which I think is fantastic. I made some modifications to it though: The design has some Velcro one wrap to store excess webbing which made the belt very busy at the front. I realized that if I cut that off I had a couple of tabs (the belt is stiffened and the webbing that secures it does not run through all of the stiffened portion) that would fit very nicely into the first belt loops on either side of the zipper on pretty much any pair of pants. So, with any low profile belt on I can easily don the CTOMS belt over top and snug it down very tightly. I actually have a second CTOMS belt for long range shooting with 3 AICS magazine pouches and a dump pouch, which is perfect for PRS.

From left to right as shown in the picture (i.e., counterclockwise from the front) the belt carries:

  • 2 x Glock magazines in ESSTAC KYWI pouch
  • CTOMS TQ pouch with multi-tool and flashlight
  • CTOMS TQ pouch for smoke bomb
  • 1 x AR magazine in ESSTAC KYWI short pouch
  • G-Code retention holster for Glock 17


Rationale for the magazine setup is that I am right handed but left eye dominant, so I shoot pistols right handed and long guns left handed. I really like the ESSTAC pouches and find the retention excellent. I quite like the holster on a short drop leg with a single leg strap for stability. Draw is fine with all the other kit on and my hand goes to the pistol grip very naturally. The smoke bomb is something I am struggling with as it seems very cheesy, but frankly if the world ends I'm going to be alone with my family so the ability to create any sort of concealment for retreat seems wise. I also have provision to mount two more under the chest rig via bungees.

Moving to the top left is a Ferro Concepts old model Slickster ( https://ferroconcepts.com/products/the-slickster  plate carrier that was modified (shortened) to fit the European level 3 stand alone triple curve plates. The plates themselves are quite lightweight and comfortable and available without ITAR headaches here in Canada. They will not stop 855 but that is not terribly common here so I feel the level of protection is acceptable. Not shown is a Ranger green Ferro Concepts placard that can be mounted on the front of the vest to provide carriage for 3 AR magazines should I want a trim and lower profile setup. The Slickster also has space in the elastic cummerbund for several more AR magazines as well.

Finally the chest rig at the top right is a Haley Strategic D3CRH ( https://www.haleystrategic.com/equip...y-ranger-green  with the x-harness replaced with a Spiritus Systems H-harness. I like the ability to carry 5.56 or 7.62 style magazines as I have ARs in both calibers.

In the chest rig from left to right and front to back as shown (i.e., right to left and front to back as worn) are:

  • 120 x 5.56 on stripper clips (big pouch)
  • Stripper clip mag loader (pistol mag pouch)
  • TBD (pistol mag pouch)
  • Headlamp, spare batteries, lighter, water purification supplies (smaller pouch)
  • SOCP dagger (zip tied to right of rig)
  • 4 x magazine pockets with kydex inserts compatible with 5.56 and 7.62 magazines - presently filled with IMI 5.56 magazines with 3D printed MagPods I designed
  • Small flex light between middle two magazine pouches to provide small navigation light


The chest rig is sized for wear without the plate carrier. If the plate carrier and chest rig are required I have a Haley Strategic Flatpack Plus (not shown) with straps sized to carry the chest rig on the front and the pack on the back. Attachment is NOT via the placard system because I want to retain the plate carrier when the backpack comes off.

As configured, I can choose any of these setups:

  • Medical only
  • Medical + pistol belt and spare AR mag
  • Medical + pistol belt and spare AR mag + chest rig
  • Medical + pistol belt and spare AR mag + plate carrier
  • Medical + pistol belt and spare AR mag + plate carrier + 3 AR mag placard
  • Medical + plate carrier
  • Medical + plate carrier + 3 AR mag placard
  • Medical + pistol belt and spare AR mag + plate carrier + chest rig + pack

I would very much appreciate any thoughts.

 

stoner01 posted:

How do the belts fit together?

I haven’t worn the two belts together for an extended period yet, but so far everything works well together. The medical kit goes on last and is pretty light so the belt for it rides above the pistol belt and doesn’t cause any issues.

The CRO IFAK has wings which I will incorporate when I make my own IFAK to help with stability on the body. So far flopping around is not a problem, but I have to do more aggressive movements to see if it becomes an issue  

Again, a key emphasis for me was always having medical close at hand so that drive the requirement for a separate medical kit. This may not be a concern for many others that just train with a single kit. 

I think I would move one of the TQs to the PC, just for the sake of having quicker access to a 'primary' one. What you have looks like it would certainly work though.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Brock01 posted:

I think I would move one of the TQs to the PC, just for the sake of having quicker access to a 'primary' one. What you have looks like it would certainly work though.

Good suggestion. I struggled to find a good spot on the PC but the elastic cummerbund would probably be good.

ja-dam posted:
Brock01 posted:

I think I would move one of the TQs to the PC, just for the sake of having quicker access to a 'primary' one. What you have looks like it would certainly work though.

Good suggestion. I struggled to find a good spot on the PC but the elastic cummerbund would probably be good.

Yep. I mean that thing literally has built in pockets!

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