show your fighting loadout

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Originally posted by Sneaky SF Dude:
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Originally posted by AirMobile21:
Mods/Lightfighter Jedi - I'm just speaking from personal downrange experience here. Not speaking for everyone; Feel free to share your own thoughts.

Ok, believe I will.

It's cool to get your picture on the Army home page. It's not cool to link to it or make reference to it yourself to show a knife on a pack.


Sir.


What good is it being famous if no one knows about it? Sometimes namedropping yourself is necessary for the greater good of self promotion.


Keeping it on topic:



This was back in '05 in Iraq. Regular interceptor, LWH and the highly flammable MCCUU's. On the vest rides from my left to right as seen: Maxpedition rollypoly in tan, ESSTAC triple mag shingle in woodland MARPAT, Tactical Tailor single shingle in OD, blue wiregate 'biner for head gear and then the coyote brown issued IFAK. The sling was home made of black tubular webbing the hook from a SAW sling and I had an Eagle (I think) webbing sling adapter on my rifle. As the driver, usually, a real sling got tangled on everything in a HMMWV, so I ditched it. I didn't even usually hook the rifle to the "sling" except standing in the chow line.


My current loadout this deployment. Chest rig is an Eagle Multi-purpose Split Front Chest Harness. Maxpedition dump pouch and Strider MT Mod 10 are word directly on my belt. Spare MBITR battery and GPS are carried in the right side radio pouch (MBITR battery gives an added benefit of lifting the GPS for easier access). Big ball of orange at the bottom is a silk-weight VS-17 tucked into a small pocket on the base of one of the pouches. Bag below the PVS14s is spare batteries for NODs, PEQ15, GPS, etc. All in all the rig has been great for general patrolling purposes. I did modify it some since there's no provision for locking down the adjustment straps. I basically took tri-glides and did a Mayflower-esque sliding adjustment.
The Eagle YOTE has been awesome out here. Can carry added water for dismounted ops as needed (which is all I do), some trail mix or snack (comes in handy-ask EODDoogie), laser range finder, camera, spotting scope, electrolyte tablets, poleless litter, wet weather gear, aid bag, etc. Some of our gun teams have bought them and use the giant mesh pocket to carry ammo bags for the 240s. Excellent bag.

LGOP: a small group of "pissed-off American paratroopers" who are well trained, armed to the teeth, and lack serious supervision. They collectively remember the commander's intent as, "March to the sound of guns, and kill anyone who isn't dressed like you ..."

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Originally posted by hmfg0331:
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Originally posted by Ryanusmc:
Now as a bitter member of the the 1st Civ Div...


Wouldn't Rhode Island be 2nd CivDiv? - East Coast. Big Grin


I've moved a lot since my eas. I didn't realize I was transfering units too Smile

btw, seeing grenades in folks loadouts gives me a chub
Lava Dog till I die. "That is, we should be constantly training for war." Pat Rogers
Howdy y'all,

Maybe not HSLD like some of the real studs on this board, but my little contribution as an ISAF grunt working for Mr. Sarkozy.

I just finished a 6.5 month rotation in Afghanistan with the French Foreign Legion in one of the eastern provinces of Afghanistan. Thought all y'all might enjoy a little peek at a slightly different military life and style versus the primarily anglo-centric viewpoint here on LF. As some of the BTDT types have repeated ad nauseum on this board...“the mission drives the gear”, so I have strived to set up my gear by that golden nugget. So a Stud Board post ala Legion Etrangere....allez!

Mods, please advise if there are any OPSEC or PERSEC issues that I may have overlooked.

Basic background info-

Functions: Platoon medic/Team Leader (chef d'equipe)/Assault Engineer (sapeur d'assaut)

Issued Armament:

FAMAS F1 bullpup assault rifle, 5.56mm

As you can see, I've made modifications. Not all are technically authorized, but nobody really gives us legionnaires too much crap anyways. Think they're scared of us for some reason. The painted part is called the PGM (poignee garde main) aka handguard, and it's a personal item, unfortunately it's also only part I'm allowed to paint.

ISAA Picatinny rail platform with MagPul AFG. I had a VTAC light mount with Surefire G2 + IR filter but since I'm not really kicking down doors and doing much stuff inside of compounds, I took it off and use it as a handheld when the VTAC mount broke. Emdom/MM Gunslinger 2-point sling or Emdom/MM URS 1-point attached to RAV. Aimpoint T-1 Micro on factory mount to minimize height-over-bore. 12 mags of 25 rounds full combat load. 1 in rifle, 6 on the RAV, 5 in the assault pack. Plus usually one or two FLG's (fusil lance grenade)...aka rifle launched grenade, AP-AV variety. CAT Gen 2 TQ attached to stock, in addition to the two I have on the RAV. Stole that idea from someone on LF...spasiba tovarich.

Despite its vaguely futuristic look, it's not as ergonomically friendly as opposed to a M4, especially the magazine changes. Standard French ammo is a 55gr (IIRC) steel jacketed bullet, and because the barrel is not chrome-lined, technically not allowed to use other rounds (like green tips). I fiddled with the sling mounts for a while before settling on the current configuration...the bullpup design makes the balance a bit awkward, especially with the additional weight up-front. The design puts the rails above the iron sights, which leads to a chin-weld rather a than cheek-weld. That also leads to some bigass holdovers, but c'est la vie. I had a 3x magnifier but unfortunately it doesn't align very well with the T-1's small scope body. But I absolutely LOVE the T-1. We do a LOT of mountain humping being mountain infantry/engineers, so having an even slightly lighter rifle is kinda nice. Zeroed for 200m, weight I have no idea, but a normal FAMAS with a loaded mag is about 8.5lbs.



Body Armor:

MSA Paraclete RAV-something or another. From photo left to right:

1x Maxpedition Rolly Polly dump pouch
1x ATS triple shingle
2x TT single shingles on inside cummerbund
1x FASTMag Gen 2
1x BFG Trauma Now BOK with TQ, Olaes 4” bandage, 10mg morphine injector, 2x permanent markers, gloves, blue chemstick, medical tape, TQ attached via shock cord on top.
1x trauma shears with leash
1x Coldsteel Spike Tanto for digging/probing
1x Emdom shingle with additional kerlix, s-rolled gauze

on chest:
1x ATS low-pro M4 mag pouch for a small Motorola-type walkie-talkie
1x generic pistol mag pouch carrying a Gerber EOD multi-tool
1x Emdom/MM 3o2 pouch carrying a Surefire G2 + TNVC 250+ lumen bulb, my very own personal light saber...I frakkin love this thing
1x Emdom/MM URS single-point rifle sling
1x PN2A signaling panel on the back (VS17)
1x MSA Gallet helmet (MICH-type) with French Army Centre Europe camo cover + NVG mount and strap + IR strobe + Surefire helmet light

The RAV was issued (used but not abused) with a whole complement of pouches, but I elected to not use any of them, just didn't like the attachment system. We were told we would be issued Eagle CIRAS, but got these instead. Level IV plates + Level IIIA panels. No idea if they are multi-hit, and I'm assuming Level IV and not III based on what's I've been told, not because the plates are labeled as such.

Size medium, would have prefer a small, but wasn't given a choice. I'm not a big dude at 5'8” 155lbs or so, so the side SAPI's can be rather annoying as they dig into my hips. I have the RAV up high enough to protect up to the sternal notch, going higher would have interfered with my reloads, so I elected to go with better and faster reloads vs comfort. The MSA helmet is much better than the older (Spectra?) helmet, lighter and allows a much more natural head position when prone. Note this is the standard basic load-out, as always mission specific load-outs were adapted as necessary. The Legion and French Army usually is on the ass-end of equipment, but this is a huge improvement on the previous generation of kit.

Nobody gives me any grief about using Multicam, especially since when it gets dirty it all looks the same anyways. High quality and dependable pouches do not exist in the French Army's Centre Europe camo pattern, IMHO. OD green is authorized, but it's a bit too dark for my AO. Sticking out a little from under the “Tactical Trunk Monkey” patch is a good luck Chinese Buddhist charm that my cousins gave me. Low-vis Texas flag is self-explanatory. The Major League Infidel...well, I added that after I learned how to say “frak you assholes, you missed” in Dari. A khukri is carried sometimes, as a big ass knife has a more positive effect on adjusting the attitude of the opposite party.






Assault Pack:

ATS Cobra + xternal pouches (assault pack)
and Camelbak TriZip (assault/sustainment pack for 24hr+ patrols and/or observation ops)

We were issued used and abused Camelbak BFM's, but I much prefer the Futura suspension system on the TriZip. The Cobra is however used more often, I like how I can access the contents from the outside pockets. Bottom pouch is a CTOMS 1st Line TCCC pouch. 1 ATS small upright GP's on each side, right side (as worn) holding an IV kit with 250mL hypertonic solution, IV start kit, etc., left side poncho or ATS pull-out with additional blast bandages, kerlix, aces bandages, etc.. Misc Emdom and TT pouches for holding language cards, goodies for Afghani ankle-biters, GPS, sunglasses, MRE's, 7.62mm ammo for the MG, .50 cal ammo for the Ma Deuce, compass, maps, det cord...as always, mission dependent. 2 mags carried on a double mag pouch outside. Outside slit pocket has an emergency trach kit, burn dressing, SAM splints, boo-boo kit (primarily for the regular French army guys we work with...we legionnaires don't do “boo-boo's” -insert smile here-). There's additional med supplies in every vehicle that I stocked in an ammo can with chest seals, trauma bandages, burn dressing, etc. In every vehicle there's at least one NAR Talon litter or the crappy standard French litter that won't load onto a Blackhawk. Depending on the mission, I have also used the compression straps to carry a DHPM magnetic detector, a 89mm AP-AV rocket (as seen here), or both.

Usual load-out:
1x OB70 Lucie NOD
1x Ulfrotte 600 wool insulating layer or 1x Snugpak Sleeka synthetic jacket or 1x Montbell Thermawrap UL jacket (temperature dependent)...I HATE being cold
1x Marmot winter gloves
1x generic Thermolite beanie
1x TAD merino ninja hood (usually worn though) or 1x Kermel/Nomex ninja hood
1x MS2000M IR strobe
1x Garmin GPS
1x NATO Emergency ration
1x compass + grid card
1x Petzl eLite head lamp
1x IR French flag + IR reflective squares
1x OPSEC Multicam poncho
1x Arktis Stowaway windproof jacket
1x Arktis Rainshield waterproof jacket
5x extra mags
1-2x field-stripped MRE's + Clif Bars + Powergels + misc cereal bars
1x LaRue/Nalgene 1L water bottle + 4-6x 500mL plastic bottles
1-2x AP/AV rifle grenades
2x empty sandbags
assorted IR and visible chemlights
extra batteries: CR123, AA, AAA, CR2032; D-Cell (for DHPM)




Hope all y'all enjoyed the post, feel free to add any suggestions and questions based on what you've seen. I've gleaned a ton of info from Lightfighter, figured it was time to give back in my little way.

Any idiot can join the military; it takes a special kind of idiot to join the Foreign Legion.

Cheers,

$$$

 

Joined: 03 OCT 2006        Meatspace Coordinates: The Smoke

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Maybe not HSLD like some of the real studs on this board, but my little contribution as an ISAF grunt working for Mr. Sarkozy.


Dude, give me a friggin' break.....you are about as HSLD as they come in my book!

Thanks for the great post and the terrific pics in the Crusader Forum!
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Nobody gives me any grief about using Multicam, especially since when it gets dirty it all looks the same anyways.


THIS!!!!

Thank you. Marpat, Cadpat, Multicam, UCP, whatever. Get them dirty and they all look the same. Want to blend with your environment? Get dirty.

ALWAYS challenge authority.

This is my setup I used on my Iraq deployment from 08-09. Mostly mounted patrols. some short term dismounted stuff and a couple longer R&S missions. I tried a few different setups during the deployment. Wish I would have gotten pictures of them all. I have to admit I started out carrying ALOT of shit, but gradually slimmed it down to what I thought was essential.

Used a DBT Gen II FAPC with cummerbund. The PC was comfortable and held up well for the 10 months I used it. Turned out the cummerbund wasn't made to hold side plates so I had to rig up a way to hold them in with some cord. One of the PALS ladders on the cummerbund flap is a little short making it a pain in the ass to thread MOLLE straps though, but with a little elbow grease it worked out well.

Starting with the right side I ran a BHI smoke grenade pouch, in front of that is a SDS med pouch for my NODs, I eventually went to a TT zippered utility pouch then an Eagle 1qt pouch with padded insert. I felt more comfortable with the added protection for the NODs with the padding. In front of the NODs pouch is a HSGI frag pouch. Very well made pouch, robust and reliable. Id say its the best frag pouch I've tried out. Along the front I mounted three paraclete double mag pouches. Not much to say about those, I think other posters have covered them pretty well in previous threads. Needless to say no complaints about their quality or design.

On the chest I ran a TT horizontal E&E pouch. This was a pretty handy pouch. I mostly kept some signalling stuff in there, couple IR strobes, signal mirror, small CLP bottle, and a collapsible cleaning rod. TQ next to that. Held on with retaining bands. Not the most ideal way to secure it but it held up through the heat and shitty weather.

Left side: Paraclete MBITR pouch. I had been issued a BHI MBITR pouch with their shitty plastic MOLLE keepers. The paraclete pouch worked out quite a bit better. I like the ability to see the display by pulling off the front panel rather than having to pull the radio out. However, the velcro started wearing out after 6 or 7 months. I usually kept a Surefire 6P with IR filter in the small side pocket of the MBITR pouch. Behind that is a TT triple mag pouch with ATS insert for my IFAK. I ended up not using this for too long. The med supplies were directly exposed to the elements with this pouch combo. I ended up going back to the issued SDS IFAK pouch after a bit.

This setup has worked out pretty well for me, my current rig is set up in a pretty similar way except for some different pouches. I'll post some pics of that next week.





"A pirate is not the sort of a man who generally cares to pay his bills...and after a time the work of endeavoring to collect debts from pirates was given up."

          -Frank R. Stockton

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Originally posted by CocoaCop:


This.. is an argument I've been having with myself for quite sometime. When I roll out with SWAT, the dudes around me all have at least three magazines...so I'm good there. However, on patrol the vast majority of the people I work with roll out with the 20 mag that our rifle carriers mandate and that's it. I have a 30rounder in a cargo pocket and a man purse with 9 more mags. Will I need 9? Hopefully not, would I benefit from keeping one or two of the other less than ready officers in the fight by throwing a mag their way...probably.
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I had that argument with myself for a while, and now I have the pull over plate carrier with the eight mag capacity and the bag in the trunk with another ten. I figure if it goes, the chance is greater that it'll go bad, and carrying the extra mags is a good workout for my fat ass anyways.

"Hold my beer and watch this"



Me and my most recent setup.

Yes I know I'm a chubbo....working on that now.

Eagle Plate Carrier
3 Eagle Double Mag Pouches
1 ATS Nalgene Pouch
1 ATS Small tear away IFAK pouch ( can't remember the actual name of it)
1 MBITR pouch mounted on the back left.

The watch is a Marathon TSAR, for those that care.

------------------------------ "The bottom line is this...if you want to be a Soldier be a fucking Soldier. If you want to raise a family, stay home and raise a family. Iraq and Afghanistan are no place to play house, eat 31 fucking flavors and hone your Xbox skills. " - JW104

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Originally posted by Rob0811:
Yes I know I'm a chubbo....working on that now.


Fuck that... Don't start your fighting loadout with that. You stepped up and continue to serve. Do what you can while you can. I guarantee there are people that wish they were still serving. Keep your head in the game and get back safely.

LOCATION: UTAH    JOINED: Jan 06

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Originally posted by Tracer:
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Originally posted by Rob0811:
Yes I know I'm a chubbo....working on that now.


Fuck that... Don't start your fighting loadout with that. You stepped up and continue to serve. Do what you can while you can. I guarantee there are people that wish they were still serving. Keep your head in the game and get back safely.


I may be 8% bodyfat but im still a brokedick who cant reenlist. I envy everyone still serving so keep it up. Besides, you might need that survival meat on your next deployment.
Lava Dog till I die. "That is, we should be constantly training for war." Pat Rogers
thanks gents.

I appreciate it.

------------------------------ "The bottom line is this...if you want to be a Soldier be a fucking Soldier. If you want to raise a family, stay home and raise a family. Iraq and Afghanistan are no place to play house, eat 31 fucking flavors and hone your Xbox skills. " - JW104

Here is my SWAT gear setup. All of this gear has been purchased by me with the exception of the armor panels which are inside of the carrier. I have been told by some that I am carrying too much and then told by others that I'm not carrying enough. Since I am fairly new to the SWAT team assignment constructive criticism is welcome.

War belt. The internal belt is an Eagle Patrol Belt with a Ranger Green ATS MOLLE War Belt. I was using the Eagle belt by itself, but the addition of the ATS War Belt is a plus, more comfortable and easier to attach gear. Going left to right I have a ATS double pistol magazine pouch followed by a Spectre Gear utility tool pouch. I am using an ATS zippered horizontal pouch for a blow out/gunshot wound kit. The holster is a Safariland that holds my Glock 22C and a Strider SMF. I finished out the belt with a pair of handcuffs in an Eagle cuff pouch.



Rifle. Complete LMT rifle 5.56 with a 16" bbl. The rail is a Daniel Defense Omega 7.0 that will be replaced shortly with either a DD 9.0 or a 12.0 FSP. I purchased both to see which one I prefer. Right now it is covered on three sides with Magpul XTM rail guards in UDE. My light is a Surefire scout light with laRue mount and I am using the clicky type on/off endcap. The sling is a padded laRue VTAC that is attached in the front using the internal DD socket and attached at the rear with a TD PR4. The optic is an Aimpoint T1 on LaRue mount with a DD BUIS. I also have a Aimpoint 3X in a LaRue flip mount, but until I get a fold down rear BUIS I cant attach both. The stock is a VLTOR EMOD. This rifle is also the rifle I use while on patrol. I have a 11.5 BCM upper that will be attached to a seized (evidence) lower when paperwork returns at the end of the month.



Vest. I was issued a entry vest that was set up for another person and did not work for me. I removed the armor panels and placed them into a TT HEV and attached the shown pouches. Currently I have two 3 magazine BFG 10 speeds in the front. I have one magazine in the rifle and 5 on the vest. Until I find a holster for the Taser I am using the six slot to carry this. The pistol pouch holds two Glock 22 magazines and is TT. It is hard to see but I have attached a Tanto knife from Tom Halloren behind the BFG pouches center line. I was told I carry too many knives, but the Team leader has given me on this. The back of the carrier holds my hydration pouch, radio pouch, utility pouch and a pair of flex cuffs. The hydration pouch is a larger ATS utility pouch with a 1.5 liter Camelbak bladder. I have another pouch and bigger bladder that I can easily change when needed.







Not pictured is my helmet, a MSA ACH with a Surefire X200 on the left side. I use Magpul PMAGS for duty. I know its not very dirty but I have only had it for a short time. Plan to run it through a EAG course soon so that should change.

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

No bangs?

I like my radio pouch on the front and I like my teammates' on the front too cause I don't want to change your fn battery or get you on the correct channel.

Can you reach your blow out kit with both hands?

Secondary light?

Is your team big? Two flex cuffs might not be enough..drug houses are often flop houses.

Do you carry any kind of note taking material, marking materials, doorstops, hand mirrors, energy bars etc? Can you get all that or do I have to grab it for you while I'm changing your radio battery and taking my eyes and gun out of the fight.

Where's your apr?

Your setup looks light but if weight comes an issue you might reevaluate your ammo needs.

That's what I got for now, bedtime.
Cocoa,
first off, don't go slammin lpd because how "you" like your kit. Better, ask him why, and discuss it so others can or may learn. If your teammate needs his fuckin battery changed, or his channel switched...then switch it TEAM GUY. Either you haven't been on a team long enough, or you have a team with zero cohesiveness...either way...Shit happens on every operation...maybe you always have charged batteries, maybe you always have power bars and all the other shit your talkin about...but sometimes the human factor fills the gap between reality and COD4...slow your roll sunshine and contribute thoughtfully or bounce.

Are you lookin at his BDU's ? Maybe he has a kit in his pants pockets. Maybe he just hasn't put on his admin pouch. Perhaps he's nowhere near the breacher, and has no need or room for bangs !!!!

All that other stuff he might not have, according to you, other quality team members WILL hook up. If ANYONE on my team EVER had your attitude they would be fuckin history.

I've hit hundreds of "drug houses" and never used flexcuffs...a swift boot to the jaw before a standard set of cuffs has worked fine for me since San Quentin Prison. Unless you hit houses with full-blown riots inside, then a team with 2 sets of cuffs each are normally adequate.

THATS ALL I HAVE.....bedtime according to you wise guy

No man is entitled to freedom, unless he be vigilant in it's preservation-Gen. Douglas MacArthur

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Originally posted by CocoaCop:
No bangs?

I like my radio pouch on the front and I like my teammates' on the front too cause I don't want to change your fn battery or get you on the correct channel.

Can you reach your blow out kit with both hands?

Secondary light?

Is your team big? Two flex cuffs might not be enough..drug houses are often flop houses.

Do you carry any kind of note taking material, marking materials, doorstops, hand mirrors, energy bars etc? Can you get all that or do I have to grab it for you while I'm changing your radio battery and taking my eyes and gun out of the fight.

Where's your apr?

Your setup looks light but if weight comes an issue you might reevaluate your ammo needs.

That's what I got for now, bedtime.


CocoaCop,

Since you seem to be the authority on this topic, I shall be looking very forward to you posting your fighting loadout. Your approach to the post of lpd5408 is way off base. So since you've put all this wisdom out there, post your gear. Otherwise.....well you know what to do.

"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense." Sir Winston Churchill

APR? I am afraid I do not know what this stands for.

Bangs. I have not been issued or trained on the use of flash bangs. Now I do know what they are and have been in training when they have been deployed but never had any formal training/classroom training. There are two members that have bangs and they are used when situation dictates. I am interested in the training and have told others of that interest, but I believe the only way I will get that training is if it on my own time and dime for the moment. Also since I have been assigned to rear security of the stack I do not believe it is paramount that I have them. Now I could be wrong on that and if I am someone here can correct me.

Radio and medical pouch. I can reach both of these but believe I will be moving it to my vest since I do not like its current position. I have several pouch options and a tear away panel but I am still experimenting with it. At this time I do not have a radio assigned to me so I have not really practiced turning it on or off. I have put my patrol radio in the pouch and I can reach the knobs. I will probably just have the channel programed to this radio and use the last notch for this channel so it is a simple turn on then to the correct channel. I am sure that if I can not reach it one of the guys can do this for me as I have done it for some of them. My team is a part time team and made up of members I have been working the road with for the last three years. We already have a working relationship and a trust formed.

Lights. Like knives I always have lights. We are issued 5.11 jumpsuits that have 401,223 different pockets and I use a couple of them to carry lights and other gear. In the utility pouch left of the radio pouch on the back of the vest I carry my cliff bars and other personal items that will keep me in the fight.

The CGT will be moved. Didn't think about that.

The SWAT aspect of this job is new to me. I have only been on the team for three months and been on two warrant services so my experience level is low. As my time in increases I'm sure things will evolve. I believe I have the minimum needed at this time and will learn what I need and dont need. I'm sure I am not alone here, but I tend to carry more gear than I need when Im on patrol or when im going to the store. Any other help is appreciated.

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

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Originally posted by Harken:
@ Ipd5408
one concern. don't think you should have your utility tool just beside your pistol mags.

Some day you will feed it to your glock Smile


I disagree. If he feeds from the belt the same way I do (start in the middle and move out), by the time he reaches the multi-tool for a reload he is out of mags anyway.

Stephen
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Originally posted by Stephen:
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Originally posted by Harken:
@ Ipd5408
one concern. don't think you should have your utility tool just beside your pistol mags.

Some day you will feed it to your glock Smile


I disagree. If he feeds from the belt the same way I do (start in the middle and move out), by the time he reaches the multi-tool for a reload he is out of mags anyway.

Stephen
I'm with you on this one, Stephen - but I once saw a guy try to load his cell phone into his pistol - twice - in an IDPA match. Surprisingly, the phone survived not only the loading attempts but the *fling* across the range as well. His phone was forward of his pistol mags, though, probably contributing to the problem.

__________________________________________ Science - it works, bitches.

Ipd;
I know you mentioned it in your orignal post but your Tazer needs a holster. I looked at your rig again and noted that both the safety and trigger are exposed; looks like a recipe for a an ND. As always just MHO

be safe; if you can't be safe be violent

Here we go, this is my sotech rig that 5.56 grave gave me because he was ashamed of me for showing up at the range with magazines in my pockets. Eventually we ended up in the same unit and this got pressed into service.

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I need an admin pouch, I'd like a slightly bigger med pouch and I want to get all the pistol mags off of the rig and onto a belt. It was good to get the thing off of the range and out into the field and actually mess with it till it worked. It's been a long time since I did a field problem (long enough that I still call them field problems) and the last time I did one I was still wearing RBA and LBE so, I had some learnin' to do.
"It makes no difference what men think of war.... War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way."
Nice image, dude.

That's ok. Not only will I hook you up with some kit, I'll hook you up with a photo for it, too. And since I'm doin' all the giving, I get to choose which one.

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Originally posted by Agincourt:
Here we go, this is my sotech rig that 5.56 grave gave me because he was ashamed of me for showing up at the range with magazines in my pockets. Eventually we ended up in the same unit and this got pressed into service.



I need an admin pouch, I'd like a slightly bigger med pouch and I want to get all the pistol mags off of the rig and onto a belt. It was good to get the thing off of the range and out into the field and actually mess with it till it worked. It's been a long time since I did a field problem (long enough that I still call them field problems) and the last time I did one I was still wearing RBA and LBE so, I had some learnin' to do.


"It makes no difference what men think of war.... War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way."


You're welcome.

“Is that when you snap a guy’s neck after you been torturin’ him, so he don’t gotta go through the rest of his life with a colostomy bag?”

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Originally posted by CocoaCop:
Yup my bad, I'm not usually so brief and let an offline issue follow me to the web. Apologizes LPD and to others. Didn't realize it as I was posting but that was all attitude.


Way to Man Up.

Ryan

Are you running plates in your rig? I didn't see it mentioned.

Have you considered an ATS tear-off med pouch? I can loan you one if you want to try it.

Oh and there's no such thing as too many knives or lights. Wink
Eagle plate carrier and all pouches are Eagle as well. I have 2 500 Ml Normal Saline bags in my IFAK, 7 Magpul Pmags, Surefire G2 LED with Specter pouch, Surefire Helmet light with Surefire clip, CAT tourniquet on left shoulder strap.

I think that I am going to move all the mag pouches to the left, they get in the way when in the prone.

I also have a combat trauma bag that I secure with a Balackhawk patrol belt and a single clip to my carrier. I have all med supplies I need using that CTB. It is a decent set up, but I am always looking for good advice and thoughts.

I have it all this way because after all the time and trials in this workup, it just kind of evolved into what you see.

If there are any other Corpsman or Medics, please give thoughts and criticisms.
FMF, any reason why you're running the IV bags on your person as opposed to in your aidbag?

What do you carry in your combat trauma bag? Is that supplemented by a larger aidbag?

Also, what do your Marines carry in their IFAKs?

-srff

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I have no room in my trauma bag for IVs so they go in my IFAK. I have a SAM splint, 4 combat gauze, 4 H&H gauze, 3 pressure dressings, 1 chrich kit, 1 king LT, 3 NPA, 2 OPA, 1 Epi pen, 3 Morphine injector, 2 needle decompression needles, 3 Bolin chest seals, 2 burn dressings, Benchmade rescue hook, 2 CAT tourniquets, 10 cc syringe, Abdominal dressing, thermometer, duct tape, ACE wrap, and a few other things. I don't patrol with my larger med bag, that is why I roll out with my combat trauma bag. Everything that I need to do my job I have to have on my persons. Long foot patrol and limited space on me.

I also have an admin pouch with an IR buzz saw to an LZ, NVG mounts and NVGs, sharpies, and forms and wright in the rain gear.

It is supplemental to my med bag that is a very large backpack that is stocked to the max with lots of supplies. I don't take that out on patrols because it is too big and bulky, it stays in the truck.

My Marines have the standard load out from CIF and I gave them each two SOF tourniquets. Pressure dressings, combat gauze, H gauze, and a lot other useful stuff.
Good deal. Have you considered running a sling bag or waist pack instead of the leg rig? I've always though leg rigs were big and bulky and swung everywhere when I tried to run, but if you like it and it works for you, by all means stick with what you like.

Personally, I run basic trauma and airway supplies in two pouches on my rig. Everything else comes out of the waistpack on my back. I should be posting some pics of it on here soon for you guys to critique.

What do you carry for water?

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"Trust me, I'm a medic"

 

"...by the heavens in which men fly."

I run a EMDOM USA Recon Waist Bag with all of mt first up med gear in it. I works very well and I don't have to worry about it getting hung up on a door or something like a leg rig. I also can do my care under fire and my first round of tx without pulling my aid-bag off.
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Good deal. Have you considered running a sling bag or waist pack instead of the leg rig? I've always though leg rigs were big and bulky and swung everywhere when I tried to run, but if you like it and it works for you, by all means stick with what you like.

Personally, I run basic trauma and airway supplies in two pouches on my rig. Everything else comes out of the waistpack on my back. I should be posting some pics of it on here soon for you guys to critique.

What do you carry for water?



I don't use the leg rig anymore for that very reason. The Trauma bag on the patrol belt is fine for me. I carry too much gear and supplies and I need to start slimming my load out. I could carry so much more and I want to carry so much like all my ACLS gear, but I have to draw the line somewhere. For water I use a 3L Camelback
Med Bag
Used for resupply, mas cas, and it stays on the truck. I don't patrol with this on my back.







Lots of Hetastarch




The Bag I carry on patrols, the combat trauma bag (CTB), it is a good rig. Blackhawk patrol belt and Eagle admin pouch that I keep an IV in.









Patrol Vest
IFAK has an IV and other massive bleeding supplies








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The Bag I carry on patrols, the combat trauma bag (CTB), it is a good rig. Blackhawk patrol belt and Eagle admin pouch that I keep an IV in.

I like the simplicity of that setup. It seems like a very elegant and uncluttered means to keep the essentials on hand. Do you find that the CTB is too bulky to keep on your side? Seems like it sticks out a ways.

Ad astra per aspera!

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The Bag I carry on patrols, the combat trauma bag (CTB), it is a good rig. Blackhawk patrol belt and Eagle admin pouch that I keep an IV in.

I like the simplicity of that setup. It seems like a very elegant and uncluttered means to keep the essentials on hand. Do you find that the CTB is too bulky to keep on your side? Seems like it sticks out a ways.


That is the battle that all of the Corpsman in my battalion face. Some of the guys have it on a patrol belt and have it basically sitting on their ass, I tried that and it bounced around way too much. I use one clip on the right side of my carrier and clip it to the very front clip along with the patrol belt. It does kind of get in the way though. When I was going through windows is where it was most noticeable. It is all about finding that happy medium. After over 10 months of trials and different ways of mounting I found that the belt clipped to the carrier is the best for me. Also, it can be a pain to get my chrich kit and King LT out of the inside pocket quickly, but after a lot of practice I got it down.
I've got the army version of that bag and used it with a sling from a spec-ops bag (bandoleer i think?) instead of that huge multpurpose sling/belt/backpack abortion that comes with it. It's a good little bag for all your first line medic stuff. I use it in the aircraft too as a small medic bag to take out the window or down the hoist instead of taking the full aidbag.

More recently I just switched everything to a waistpack (not sure who makes it, but I'll have pics of it up soon with everything else. So far it seems like it's fairly low profile and doesn't swing around too much.

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"Trust me, I'm a medic"

 

"...by the heavens in which men fly."

FMFCorpsman:

Nice AZ Flag patch.

But you might want to black out your nametapes in the photos for PERSEC, mate.

“Is that when you snap a guy’s neck after you been torturin’ him, so he don’t gotta go through the rest of his life with a colostomy bag?”

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