I have a small collection of British military swords, most of which are Victorian era.

From left to right, they are:
1.  1897 Infantry Officer's Sword.  This one has King Edward VII's cypher, so it was made between 1902 and 1910.
2.  1822 Royal Artillery pattern.  Late Victorian because of the leather covered scabbard.
3.  1827 Rifle Officer's sword.  It's in really good shape and the surviving leather scabbard is kind of rare.  About 1860.
4.  RASC sword, post WW1
5.  Another 1822 Artillery Officer's Sword.  Mid Victorian.  No scabbard.
6.  The one on the right end is not identified.  It appears to be Indian.  The blade is a Tulwar pattern and it's still sharp.  The guard and hilt are iron, but the hilt is shaped and marked to look like the 1821 Light Cavalry.  Probably a trooper's sword.  It isn't in any of the books and the guy I checked with, a true SME on the topic, hadn't seen one before, but confirmed it looked Indian and not a tourist type facsimile.  2nd half of the 19th Century.

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UVvis posted:

Swords are perhaps the best tool ever invented for cutting up birthday cakes.  Long straight lines with the benefit of not having to talk to the other kid’s parents afterwards.

We were at the 2003 Nellis AFB Air Force Ball when my Cav unit was  mobilized and attached to Security Forces. The AF general is ready to cut the cake but...no knife. People were scrambling to find one when my 1SG got up, walked to the the front, carrying his saber over his head. He handed it to the general, who then cut the AF birthday cake with an Army saber.

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Desk_jockey posted:

I was always partial to samurai patterns.   Have a repro of the musashi blade somewhere in the basement.   

And, although my wife thinks I am an idiot, I do love clearing the yard with this guy:

 

https://www.coldsteel.com/tact...-katana-machete.html

 

I’ve been eyeballing that Cold Steel blade for a while now. They’re about $30 to $35 from Amazon. 

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Consigliere posted:

Group buy!!!!

Can we get them with the LF logo etched into the blade? 

If I ever win the lottery this will be in my Man Cave:

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At nearly 8lbs, you can get arms like Conan wielding it or a muscle tear. At my age it would probably be the latter. 

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Desk_jockey posted:

I was always partial to samurai patterns.   Have a repro of the musashi blade somewhere in the basement.   

And, although my wife thinks I am an idiot, I do love clearing the yard with this guy:

 

https://www.coldsteel.com/tact...-katana-machete.html

 

I’ve been eyeballing that Cold Steel blade for a while now. They’re about $30 to $35 from Amazon. 

Yes.   I bought three.  Cold steel quality.  Plastic handle.   Doesn’t really have the right weight and balance to be an efficient machete but it looks cool.  

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People buy swords for lots of reasons.  History, collecting, HEMA and other martial arts, fun, re-enacting, shits & giggles, and an alternative means of self defense.  I was recently asked a question for the self-defense option.  The purchaser had no experience and the suggestion was a Cold Steel katana.  My initial reaction was no, because the Cold Steel swords are over-built and heavier than others.  Not so well balanced and more of a sharpened crow bar.  However, for someone with no experience or skill, durability is really more paramount since if it is used, it won't be used well and the Cold Steel is more likely to survive abuse.  Then I did some more thinking and their 1917 Cutlass (not the machete!) is even better.  First, cutlasses have always been strongly built and more forgiving of abuse.  The shorter blade makes them handier in close quarters, they are good cutters and can thrust, and the guard provides some hand protection, something the tsuba on a katana does very poorly.    Personally I prefer a spear point with a sharpened false edge over the clip point, but it will work.  And finally, still on the durability theme, a single edged blade is stronger than a double edge.

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https://thatworks(DOT)shop/shop?olsPage=products%2Finquisitor-engraved-damascus-longsword

Consig, here’s one for ya. Cheap little blade. $18k and change.

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SPDSNYPR posted:

https://thatworks(DOT)shop/shop?olsPage=products%2Finquisitor-engraved-damascus-longsword

Consig, here’s one for ya. Cheap little blade. $18k and change.

After his Kami refund...

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from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage."

I have a CS Gladius machete. Figured better than nothing if other options are unavailable. I've beat it up pretty bad, but it is durable and take a nice edge. Certainly nothing like high-end actual swords, but a decent GP blade if things get slashy stabby.

Garg 'nuair dhùisgear

The only sword I own is a M1913 "Patton" saber made in 1918 by Landers, Frary & Clark.  They seemed to make everything for the Government back then. Very workaday item with no frills at all. The only thing I added to it was a repro leather sword knot from a company called What Price Glory. 

 

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When I see swords I think how a guy must have had to up size their testicles from solo to family pack size to go man to man with another guy similarly armed.

No swords but I do have three machetes that get some regular work.  One is a  U.S. 1942 Disston  and my favorite.

Earlier this month I smote a goodly sized copperhead that was attempting to flee into some weeds from my wrathful visage with a machete.  The machete is now known in the realm as "Snake Eater." 

There is no left or right.

There is only tyranny or freedom. 

I have some throwing hatchets at the range that have murdered venomous snakes. I leave the non-venomous ones alone. They kill mice for me.

Squaring off with someone with an axe, a hunk of wood (shield), a sharp stick (spear), and/or a sword with the intent to hack each other to death is next-level brutal shit. Not that poking holes in each other with rifles or pistols isn’t brutal, but it’s just on a different level.  

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stray round posted:

When I see swords I think how a guy must have had to up size their testicles from solo to family pack size to go man to man with another guy similarly armed.

No swords but I do have three machetes that get some regular work.  One is a  U.S. 1942 Disston  and my favorite.

Earlier this month I smote a goodly sized copperhead that was attempting to flee into some weeds from my wrathful visage with a machete.  The machete is now known in the realm as "Snake Eater." 

Winner! Use of smote.

Beer is on me.

Know thy enemies, but be aware of thy friends...

 

The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:
from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage."

So what did you do with said smitten serpent?   Blood was spilt, smitten serpent split, perhaps smashed as well.  I'm not in favor of wasting food, so one can only hope you sauteed said spilt, split, smitten serpent for supper.  I killed a rattlesnake with a rock once and had him for dinner.  And yes, he tasted like chicken.  Succulent.  Here's to you if supped on succulent sauteed, spilt, split, smitten serpent.

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Dorsai posted:

So what did you do with said smitten serpent?   Blood was spilt, smitten serpent split, perhaps smashed as well.  I'm not in favor of wasting food, so one can only hope you sauteed said spilt, split, smitten serpent for supper.  I killed a rattlesnake with a rock once and had him for dinner.  And yes, he tasted like chicken.  Succulent.  Here's to you if supped on succulent sauteed, spilt, split, smitten serpent.

Well done, Mark. I’d reply in kind but none of the “S” words I’m thinking of are very nice.  

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Dorsai posted:

So what did you do with said smitten serpent?   Blood was spilt, smitten serpent split, perhaps smashed as well.  I'm not in favor of wasting food, so one can only hope you sauteed said spilt, split, smitten serpent for supper.  I killed a rattlesnake with a rock once and had him for dinner.  And yes, he tasted like chicken.  Succulent.  Here's to you if supped on succulent sauteed, spilt, split, smitten serpent.

slither, slide, spake, sustenance...you have only just began. 

 

Never mind me, I'm going to put myself in the corner now. 

Between SPDSNYPR and his killing vipers with throwing tomahawks and taking their tiny little scalps and Dorsai's smiting said staunch serpent with a stone, I've shamefully been shown that stalwart  stars out shine my  sprightly shimmer. 

 

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SPDSNYPR posted:

I have some throwing hatchets at the range that have murdered venomous snakes. I leave the non-venomous ones alone. They kill mice for me.

Squaring off with someone with an axe, a hunk of wood (shield), a sharp stick (spear), and/or a sword with the intent to hack each other to death is next-level brutal shit. Not that poking holes in each other with rifles or pistols isn’t brutal, but it’s just on a different level.  

This! It takes a big set of balls to face off with someone  like that.

I guess everyone wants to be a Viking, until it's time to do Viking shit. Besides, people seem to forget, Vikings were not very nice people. Cool sword though.

An old buddy of mine (RIP), was a former Rhodesian SAS and SADF 1RR Operator. I remember talking with him one day about the Napoleonic wars, and him telling me there was no way he would ever want to stand in a thin red line wearing a scarlet coat exchanging musket balls with a bunch of guys 20 meters away.

Regards.

Mark

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Dorsai posted:

So what did you do with said smitten serpent?   Blood was spilt, smitten serpent split, perhaps smashed as well.  I'm not in favor of wasting food, so one can only hope you sauteed said spilt, split, smitten serpent for supper.  I killed a rattlesnake with a rock once and had him for dinner.  And yes, he tasted like chicken.  Succulent.  Here's to you if supped on succulent sauteed, spilt, split, smitten serpent.

I say this with the highest of regard but.....what the fuck is wrong with you?

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I have to admit that when i murder a pit viper that bullies his way onto my range - I just throw his dead little corpse into the nearby woods. I have nothing against the snake, but don’t have time for a snake relocation program. We’re too far away from the city to screw around with potential for a bite. Rat snake - pin it’s head, pick it up, toss it into the woods. Rattler or copperhead - pin it’s head, chop it’s head, toss it into the woods. 

I don’t want to damage my sword by making it a snake killer. BTW - we have a “don’t shoot the snake” policy. It’s dangerous for anyone on the range (a lot of concrete for bullets to bounce off of). 

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SPDSNYPR posted:

 Rat snake - pin it’s head, pick it up, toss it into the woods. Rattler or copperhead - pin it’s head, chop it’s head, toss it into the woods. 

I don’t want to damage my sword by making it a snake killer. BTW - we have a “don’t shoot the snake” policy. It’s dangerous for anyone on the range (a lot of concrete for bullets to bounce off of). 

A use for bayonet then?

I don’t think we have one single bayonet at the PD. Obviously I’m a bad person. 

 

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SPDSNYPR posted:

I don’t think we have one single bayonet at the PD. Obviously I’m a bad person. 

 

Well, one of those nice KCB77 long jobs on the end of a M4 might do:

But for pinning/cutting/tossing....

I speculate that Dorsai can steer and school you re service of such suitable for spooking, securing, slicing & slinging  significant slithering succulent  serpents,  squirming though they might be.

Or not.

I think a frog gig is probably the best tool for pinning a snake you intend to kill.  The long shaft gives you reach, and the spread of barbs betters the probability of a successful strike, especially when they are moving fast.  Much better than a single blade/point.  

https://www.cabelas.com/produc...BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Dorsai posted:

I think a frog gig is probably the best tool for pinning a snake you intend to kill.  The long shaft gives you reach, and the spread of barbs betters the probability of a successful strike, especially when they are moving fast.  Much better than a single blade/point.  

https://www.cabelas.com/produc...BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Ummm...you guys hunt/eat frogs so much you have specialist tools for the job?

Good Lord- what is happening over there?

I don't have a "real" sword, but I recently replace my Marine Corps NCO sword with a Cold Steel 1860 Heavy Cavalry Sabre in my golf bag.  Yeah, my golf bag.  Somehow, it seems to be appropriate.  The boys love it.

 

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SPDSNYPR posted:

I don’t think we have one single bayonet at the PD. Obviously I’m a bad person. 

 

A long time ago, at my last agency, I got us some M590A1s.  I pointed out the bayonet lug on them, and demonstrated it to the Chief.  He said "NO". 

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DirtySanchez posted:
SPDSNYPR posted:

I don’t think we have one single bayonet at the PD. Obviously I’m a bad person. 

 

A long time ago, at my last agency, I got us some M590A1s.  I pointed out the bayonet lug on them, and demonstrated it to the Chief.  He said "NO". 

There was someone putting out short cattle prods that would fit on STANAG bayonet fittings.

Just saying.

Linz posted:
Dorsai posted:

I think a frog gig is probably the best tool for pinning a snake you intend to kill.  The long shaft gives you reach, and the spread of barbs betters the probability of a successful strike, especially when they are moving fast.  Much better than a single blade/point.  

https://www.cabelas.com/produc...BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Ummm...you guys hunt/eat frogs so much you have specialist tools for the job?

Good Lord- what is happening over there?

I used to go frog gigging a lot when I was a kid. Along with coon hunting, good excuse to stay out all night.

Linz. do y'all eat crocs? If they're as good as gator...

Garg 'nuair dhùisgear

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