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MOJONIXON posted:
Dorsai posted:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Surpl...0:g:6yoAAOSwbmdZfT0X

At $10 or less and good for AK or AR, it makes sense as a loaner.  If some dumbshit is so ill equipped he needs to borrow my rifle, I'm not going to spend a lot of money on to of the line gear.  It was good enough for the Wolverines, it's good enough for him.

I’d take one of those for a “ just because” reason. Hard to read the ad though as it appears to be a China generated ad. Only 2 rigs left. 

Just do a search on the type of rig and dozens of ads will pop up.  In this context, I like that rig the best.  The standard AK chest rig has 3 mag pockets, this has 4.  I think I bought four of them and have them set up for AKM's or AK74's.  Just grab the rifle and the chest rig with 4 mags and cleaning gear.  They aren't fast to use,  but neither are they complicated.  

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High Cross posted:
David Reeves posted:

Well... we know AR's aren't legal everywhere, and M1 Carbines are hard to find... here's something our Aussie Friends should  be able to use for a little while...

Image result for slingshot

sling shots are a felony in New Jersey. No joke.

Get the Fuck out!

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I actually have some experience training people with "hand out" guns

There was a rash of break ins and robberies and drug shootings a few years back at my college in Southern Indiana back when the whole opoid crisis made a perfect storm with the high level of meth down there.


I had 3 of my friends call me and ask "I need to get a gun what do I do" and I walked them through getting a cheap Chinese knock off pump gun, and then took them to my gun club and gave them a half days instruction.  I already shot skeet with 2 of them and 1 of them had been hunting so they new the basics.   

The biggest things I found being an issue were recoil control and manipulation.  With proper body position/stance and even a basic use of firearms getting hits was not an issue even with shooting from the hip.  Though giving them snap caps really was useful in getting them trained up in manipulation as well as teaching them push pull and to lean into the gun to control recoil

Something else I did to help teach them to defend themselves and their homes was force on force with airsoft guns teaching them what the angles would be in their house from the door and from the bedroom and to figure out what is the best place to get cover and concealment, as well as to help teach basic weapons handling/close in marksmanship.  I didn't teach them to run around like rambo, but if someone was trying to kick in the door where was the best place to post up with a clear shot to the door and concealment/cover, and also the best place to cover the door from the bedroom.

I really do think airsoft is an under-rated tool here to teach people safe weapons handling, manipulation, and basic force on force.

Something I did that was really helpful in this situation and would be helpful if your serious about hand-out guns it to do some firearms instruction, even if only volunteer.  I did some work helping a friend set up and instruct some intro to handgun classes, and I also got the materials and did the coursework on being a NRA Personal Defense in the home but I never did get the cert.

Just having that experience was huge in being able to my friends trained up.  And honestly with how much the guys here at LFer know about firearms and whatnot it would not be a bad idea to even volunteer as an instructor to gain the skills in how to teach and disseminate knowledge about shooting and the 2nd amendment

 

2 places you can volunteer to help out train people is 1. Students for Concealed Carry at your local College.   Im sure the local president would be happy to have you take some people out to the range or give a presentation. 2 The collegiate shooting sports initiative.  It would be a great place to get some young pro 2nd A college students out and teach them how to be safe and use a gun and then get them out to shoot USPSA or two gun.  It would be a great way to give back, learn how to train people, and also ensure that the younger generation still protects the 2nd Amendment-

Lowspeed-High Drag/Armchair General and Keyboard /k/ommando

You didn't bother reading the initial post.

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MrMurphy posted:

You didn't bother reading the initial post.

That and a lot of instructing and F on F training etc. but “didn’t get the cert.” I’m wondering what his qualifications to be an instructor are. None are listed. 

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MOJONIXON posted:
MrMurphy posted:

You didn't bother reading the initial post.

That and a lot of instructing and F on F training etc. but “didn’t get the cert.” I’m wondering what his qualifications to be an instructor are. None are listed. 

Thats the thing, I really at the time was just a college student and just liked to shoot, im not a LE or Mil guy and I helped out some of my friends.  I shoot USPSA and got the course materials and did some one on one work with the president of my gun club who is a instructor, but I realized it isn't my lane being a regular guy with my present life experience and I didn't have the time graduating college or working now 60 hours a week to do so.

Eventually I would like to teach CCW/Self defense from the perspective of "By a everyday Civilian concealed carry guy for the everyday guy" but I need to learn and train alot more and have more life experience before doing so

Lowspeed-High Drag/Armchair General and Keyboard /k/ommando

Lowspeed, your lane is so far to the right, it's not even on the same fucking highway. 

Stop pimping your organization in every thread. 

Stop buying cheap pieces of shit then retroactively trying to justify it here. 

 

Save your college boy pennies, go to a professional training course or three, THEN we may talk. 

 

Until then, as always on LF read more, post less. 

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yakc130 posted:
High Cross posted:
David Reeves posted:

Well... we know AR's aren't legal everywhere, and M1 Carbines are hard to find... here's something our Aussie Friends should  be able to use for a little while...

Image result for slingshot

sling shots are a felony in New Jersey. No joke.

Get the Fuck out!

He's not lying.

New Jersey Statute 2C:39-3. Prohibited Weapons and Devices.

e. Certain weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

 

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And here's a surprise - MA General Laws, Chapter 269 Section 12 (not only sling shots, but slung shots too )

Section 12. Whoever manufactures or causes to be manufactured, or sells or exposes for sale, an instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as a dirk knife, a switch knife or any knife having an automatic spring release device by which the blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches or a device or case which enables a knife with a locking blade to be drawn at a locked position, any ballistic knife, or any knife with a detachable blade capable of being propelled by any mechanism, slung shot, sling shot, bean blower, sword cane, pistol cane, bludgeon, blackjack, nunchaku, zoobow, also known as klackers or kung fu sticks, or any similar weapon consisting of two sticks of wood, plastic or metal connected at one end by a length of rope, chain, wire or leather, a shuriken or any similar pointed starlike object intended to injure a person when thrown, or a manrikigusari or similar length of chain having weighted ends; or metallic knuckles or knuckles of any other substance which could be put to the same use and with the same or similar effect as metallic knuckles, shall be punished by a fine of not less than fifty nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not more than six months; provided, however, that sling shots may be manufactured and sold to clubs or associations conducting sporting events where such sling shots are used.

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Bean blowers. ??? Straws and lungs?

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No sling shots?   Really? 

Was it really that long ago when a kid could save up money from mowing the neighbors' yards and could buy one out of the back of a comic book with a set of x-ray glasses?

 And what happens when a kid breaks off a y shaped branch and uses a 6" pocket knife to manufacture a slingshot?

MrMurphy posted:

Lowspeed, your lane is so far to the right, it's not even on the same fucking highway. 

Stop pimping your organization in every thread. 

Stop buying cheap pieces of shit then retroactively trying to justify it here. 

 

Save your college boy pennies, go to a professional training course or three, THEN we may talk. 

 

Until then, as always on LF read more, post less. 

Lurking more is always a good thing. I figure I am just do damn bored at work and have been shitposting a bit.

I never bought a bersa, I just wanted to see what someone saw from it who actually used it.

And I have taken some training and plan on taking more.

I in the next year or two will take MAG-40, get out to Ohio and take one of Varg Freeborn's classes and in 2019 take ECQC with shivworks.  I plan on being a student of civilian self defense and want to keep a focus on that. 

Sorry for talking about Student's for Concealed carry.  IDK being someone who doesn't live in the industry/tactical/LE/Military world and having been in more liberal places I feel alot more urgency in the political side of things.  I figure it must be different and somewhat annoying for alot of you guys here.

Lowspeed-High Drag/Armchair General and Keyboard /k/ommando

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