Thanks Mike: yes, the bar tacked running end of the webbing is 3/4" x 3/8" x 3/8"

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Thanks, MikeyG and logos!

(I actually misspoke, in that I was meaning to ask for the width. But the thickness was also a point of curiousity.)

So with that nod to BFG, and being 2" in width, its probably perfectly sized for those MOLLE items intended for both PALS and belt wear? By which I mean, they have an extra strip of 1" webbing running horizontally, immediately beneath the vertical straps, so that alternative weaving will create a 2" opening.

Jules

Beware of the sizing for the belt, you need to measure your waist with a tape before ordering and not go off of pant size. I now have a fairly expensive belt that is useless for my needs since they don't take back load bearing equipment for exchanges. It's beautifully made, but don't expect them to give you the customer service of a mom and pop shop or most of the other tactical manufacturers.
What size bro? I might be able to help. Big Grin

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Originally posted by logos:
Runcible, belt is 1/16" x 2". "Two slot" style attachments work great, fixed kydex loops less well, and Blue Force Gears Helium series the best.


Thanks for the nod brother. I just finished the second version of the M4 mag pouch last night and it weighs around 19 grams...

Stephen
I was mistaken earlier in thinking that the medium is too small, but on the the other hand I expected the 1" webbing to be always on top of of the wider belt portion. Another issue I have had with it is the large doubled over portion of webbing that you feed through the buckle. I had to hack on my Safariland a bit to get it to fit through the belt loops. If they had kept it as a single layer and used another method to make it it easier to grab I think it would have worked out better. it is super comfortable and light. If you want a gun belt this is not for you though, it does the job fine, but that is not what it shines at feature wise.
What might be a nice upgrade to the Gryphon and Sphinx shirt will be if u attach a pocket under the sleeve pocket where the sleeve can be putted in. I had the problem last this week that the sleeves always came back out after i rolled them up.

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Snakedoc, that really interesting.

The Gryphon has a pocket for the sleeve: the Sphinx relies on you cranking down Velcro strap. Were you wearing the Gryphon or the Sphinx? How exactly was the sleeve falling out? Feel free to PM me to get my phone number so we can get this figured out.

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A light weight, well ventilated boonie hat in MC & Crocodile, and maybe even a separate GorTex boonie/sombrero like OR has.

Put my name at the top of the list for this one please.

 

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i got the sphinx shirt and love it, i fold the sleeves up and slight them under the arm pocket. but i can´t pull the velcro strap to tight, i tried that also but my arm falls asleep after a while so i decided to tight it but not to tight. when I move after a while the sleeve will come out again, that´s why i asked for a pocket!

oh yeah a boonie in crocodile will be awesome! or even the BAD cap in crocodile will be sweet.

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Something else I have found invaluable in recent years in the cold is an around the waist hand warmer. It doesn't matter what you are doing, sitting/standing around in the cold is sitting/standing around in the cold, and my hands turn to ice cubes. Having something low profile, quite that would flatten back out when you removed your hands but with some kind of heat reflective lining on the inside to keep your paws warms and not stoved up would be great for anyone out in the elements. If you could figure out someway to marry this to a lightweight Arcteryx fanny pack, or to the bottom of a PC, or even the jackets you guys sell but have it so it could be used separately it would be pretty sweet.

I saw a pic on one of the boards of an SF guy in A-Stan just the other day decked out in MC, all except for his black waist worn hand warmer.

Just a thought...

 

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Originally posted by Hootiewho:
Something else I have found invaluable in recent years in the cold is an around the waist hand warmer. It doesn't matter what you are doing, sitting/standing around in the cold is sitting/standing around in the cold, and my hands turn to ice cubes. Having something low profile, quite that would flatten back out when you removed your hands but with some kind of heat reflective lining on the inside to keep your paws warms and not stoved up would be great for anyone out in the elements. If you could figure out someway to marry this to a lightweight Arcteryx fanny pack, or to the bottom of a PC, or even the jackets you guys sell but have it so it could be used separately it would be pretty sweet.

I saw a pic on one of the boards of an SF guy in A-Stan just the other day decked out in MC, all except for his black waist worn hand warmer.

Just a thought...


I'm pretty sure Eagle Industries makes a hand warmer that you wear like a fanny pack.

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10-4 on the hand warmer.

Another suggestion is the interior lining on some of the jackets. In 6 months time my P30 grips have eat upthe lining up on my ATOM. Maybe run a little more durable material around the pistol bearing area of the waist? I have yet to pick up an Alpha, so I do not know if a rough textured pistol will cause issue on those jackets or not.

While were at it, some nice loose fitting, earth tone, cool Polo's would be nice as well. Lots of agencys are wearing polos now days. Just take note of the suggestion on the jacket and run a little bit of a more durable material around where a pistol grip would be.

 

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The Alpha pants would be perfect if I had a way to securely attach my gun belt...

My current wet weather pants have velcro tabs that act as velcro "keepers" and this works pretty well.

I am willing to bet that the Alpha pants with modifications to accommodate a duty belt would be a small market, but those of us who work in wet climates would like to see that.
Agreed on the hand warmer. Cabelas had a couple in hunting camo that look promising, but rather bulky. I'd like a low profile lightweight military colored version.

I would also really like a field jacket(ala eotac or woolrich Algerian style jacket)or smock (like the DropZone recce smock, SORD smock or Sas smock)done up in dirty bird fashion.

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+1 for beanie and gloves in crocodile

I think I'm getting issued a minotaur or sphinx top soon for this fall/winter, But I would also like the Hyllus hoody in coffee bean for when I take the plate carrier off and/or PT in the elements.

Logos, I cant make it to GA or to greygroup in NC... but you're more than welcome to come to Afghanistan with some gear and generate feedback Big Grin

All joking aside.. Thank you, Sir, for your dedication to serving the troops and our need for mission driven gear.
USMCnmelg,
We had folks in A'stan in May and care packages go out on a regular basis.
Thanks for your service: making good kit is the least we can do.

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Logos,
Where roughly in GA is your rep shop and is there a way to get a heads up when you do LEAF events there? Im down at Ft. Benning for a while and would come check it out if possible. Thanks.

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Is there any possibility that the talos pants will ever be made in crocodile?

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I am guessing that by your mono-syllabic response that you might not want to say more, but going out on a limb, is this a shot show '12 possibility, or should i just forget that i asked about it and be pleasantly surprised in 2-3 years when it actually happens?

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So far the solid Talos program has been delayed by: presidential visits to the country of origin, stolen textiles, fraud, rising demand for nylon due to Chinese car tires, the coming London Olympics and several deaths. After 6 seasons of this type of chaos, I've stopped promising anything that's not in a bonded warehouse where we're paying rent. It's comming but I can't say when.

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I graciously look forward to a pleasant surprise then. Wink

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Sohl,
Check out the Alpha LT Jacket. It's the lightest 3-Layer Gore-Tex jacket we make and our current test batch of four has survived over 2 years (that is about 1600 total field days, 400 per garment) at one of the toughest military training environments in the world with no noticeable failures.
If I may digress, ripstop improves tear resistance in loosely constructed textiles but the most over all durable textile in any given weight, especially in terms of abrasion, is a nice tight plain weave. However, nice tight plain weaves are the most expensive way to make fabric. Generally speaking, you are far more like likely to abrade though properly designed gear than you are to rip it. If you gear is ripping on a regular basis it's usually a design issue, not a textile issue.

Check out some of our latest gear testing by LEAF designer Tony Richardson leaf facebookto see how we validate these opinions.

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Harness chart with an extra size. XXL will worktfor about 39"-44" waist. From a function point of view to small is way better than to big. These things have like 12" of slack, not that you want to use that. If you get the belt to big you can't make it small enough to be safe for hanging in (or keep your pants up for that matter)

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LEAF product is over 50% (by dollar value) made in Canada with a significant portion of the rest made in the US. However, we have an increasingly difficult time finding skilled sewers in North America: if not Vancouver's large Chinese immigrant population we wouldn't even be able build anything here. As a result we have opened factories around the world, wherever we can recruit the skills and moving the less technically demanding products there. To be clear we are still growing our Vancouver factory, we just can't find the people to grow them at the rate we need to grow production.
LEAF sells a higher proportion of extremely technical products than Outdoor and so has a higher proportion of Canadian made goods. As well between Berry-compliant production and some up comeing contracts we will be growing US production though it is likely to be quite hard for individuals to buy US made LEAF after some time next year as contract work increases.

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In the LEAF line (current and for 2012 and 2013 launches), all the active use pieces have pit zips. The only softshell that does not is the Bravo as it's really moderate to low intensity use piece.

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logos,

Many thanks for the feedback. I fully understand the need to balance costs and quality and the struggle to find affordable labor that can meet the requirements. Personally I much prefer to buy products produced in non-communist countries if I must buy foreign-produced.

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