We paint PMAG's and ARC mags pretty regularly, and withot issues.

It isn't the polymer- it is probably the paint you are using.

We use Aervoe, and have used Krylon in the past.

Re the sling. It may work for you, but it is still a Rube Goldberg device.

There are probably better slings that could do what you need with a few less buckles, weight etc.

But- what ever floats your boat.

Rock on.
quote:
Originally posted by markfall:
I've got a couple FDE 20 rounders on order. I've tried to paint a pmag before but had less than good results with paint adhesion. Must have been something in the polymer.


Also, atmosphere and prep issues may play a part. I have found that even using quality paints when it is humid out will cause the paint to remain tacky indefinitely. Or moving parts from a climate controlled area into warm or cold outdoor areas to paint without allowing the parts to reach the same ambient temp can cause issues.

Stephen
Speaking of tacky, I just finished painting my 870 last night following Pat's instructions. I used the gun cleaner made by Slip and all Aervoe paint. I live in FL and it was raining last night when I painted it in my garage. I took it inside hoping the lack of humidity would help it dry better without the tacky finish. It's now 6 hours later and its still sticky. any tips on how to dry it faster? I kept it very light on each pass.
This was my test paint job (and first one) so any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Some good stuff in this thread. This is my asshole attempt to paint my mini 14.

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Well, no one can say you don't have guts, posting a Mini-14 on the Stud-Board. Actually, depending on the environment, the camo will probably work fairly well.

I don't know how you've skated for two years with your profile, but it ain't very good. If you have something that legitimately needs to stay private, contact a mod with some more details and we'll decide if you're good to go as is.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dorsai:
Well, no one can say you don't have guts, posting a Mini-14 on the Stud-Board. Actually, depending on the environment, the camo will probably work fairly well.

I don't know how you've skated for two years with your profile, but it ain't very good. If you have something that legitimately needs to stay private, contact a mod with some more details and we'll decide if you're good to go as is.


Hey, I like my mini 14. This is what happens when you have too much discretionary fundage. As for my profile, what in the world do you want me to put on there? A blood sample? Big Grin
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." -Ferdinand Foch at the battle of the Marne
If you were looking for an educated opinion from someone, and they had your profile, would you give any credence to what they said? Especially when you know they are prod of their Mini-14?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dorsai:
If you were looking for an educated opinion from someone, and they had your profile, would you give any credence to what they said? Especially when you know they are prod of their Mini-14?


Opinions are rarely educated, so it probably wouldn't matter all that much to me. Especially considering that anyone can write whatever they want on a profile. But just for you, I changed it. Big Grin

And lay off my mini. Can your AR do this?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." -Ferdinand Foch at the battle of the Marne
quote:
Originally posted by OneSevenDuece:
Opinions are rarely educated, so it probably wouldn't matter all that much to me.


The reason I come to Lightfighter is that more is expected when an opinion is voiced. You are more likely to get truth here, whether you like it or not, than any other forum I've seen.

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quote:
Originally posted by subterfuge:
The reason I come to Lightfighter is that more is expected when an opinion is voiced. You are more likely to get truth here, whether you like it or not, than any other forum I've seen.


Yeah, I'll agree with that. I have been in and out, and lurked for a while, and the quality of info here seems to be a step or two higher.
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quote:
Originally posted by OneSevenDuece:
quote:
Originally posted by subterfuge:
The reason I come to Lightfighter is that more is expected when an opinion is voiced. You are more likely to get truth here, whether you like it or not, than any other forum I've seen.


Yeah, I'll agree with that. I have been in and out, and lurked for a while, and the quality of info here seems to be a step or two higher.


I think the quality of info here is a lot better than a step or two higher. The best thing about this site is that the guys on the tip of the spear and have been on the tip of the spear for a long time post here. And no forum I know of is policed by it's moderators as this one is. Posers get called the fuck out with the quickness when dumb shit gets posted, and even if you've been posting here for years and post some retarded shit, you get called out because the information that is put out here is taken seriously. People might make decisions that might mean life and death for themselves or someone else based on the info they find here. So when something is half assed you can bet someone will let you know about it. And usually the only ones that get butt hurt about getting corrected are posers. That's what separates this forum from all the others.
quote:
Originally posted by Mando'ad:
I think the quality of info here is a lot better than a step or two higher. The best thing about this site is that the guys on the tip of the spear and have been on the tip of the spear for a long time post here. And no forum I know of is policed by it's moderators as this one is. Posers get called the fuck out with the quickness when dumb shit gets posted, and even if you've been posting here for years and post some retarded shit, you get called out because the information that is put out here is taken seriously. People might make decisions that might mean life and death for themselves or someone else based on the info they find here. So when something is half assed you can bet someone will let you know about it. And usually the only ones that get butt hurt about getting corrected are posers. That's what separates this forum from all the others.


It's definitely unique. I don't know if it's the be all end all of forums, but it's definitely worth being a part of. There is some good info here and folks are usually pretty responsible about it.
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Although brian556 fucked up his first post, my dumbass actually has the same damn question. I painted my first PMAG this evening and also had no sun left over to help it dry nicely. My shit's all sticky too, so did I just apply too much Aervoe or are brian556 and I both just dumbshits for doing this after-hours instead of out in the bright sun during the day (although I will say my first post was written in the proper thread a year or so ago... just sayin'Big Grin )?

S/F Paul

Most of there paint jobs are turning and "Evil Black Rifle" into a "hard to see or identify as a rifle" rifle. Are the steps the same for a tan or a FDE or such base colours?

I get that flat colour rifles are harder to see than flat black rifles, but only just, a tan gun is still a gun. And a lot of work needs to go into making your pattern just change colours.

KBK

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul G:
Although brian556 fucked up his first post, my dumbass actually has the same damn question. I painted my first PMAG this evening and also had no sun left over to help it dry nicely. My shit's all sticky too, so did I just apply too much Aervoe or are brian556 and I both just dumbshits for doing this after-hours instead of out in the bright sun during the day (although I will say my first post was written in the proper thread a year or so ago... just sayin'Big Grin )?


Brother- a common error here is that people apply paint too thickly.

The proper- and most efficient way is to use a light. misting coat, holding the nozzle 12" from the article and making quick passes.

A misting coat dries rapidly. and several of these light coats will cover more efficiently.

Having the aticle warm helps greatly...

In the summertime, i'll let the sun warm the article up.

If no sun, room temperature works OK, but artificial heat (hair dryer, heat register) will work as well.
Make sure the paint can is warm as well (but not hot !)

In the decade plus that we have been doing this, i have never had a problem with drying with Aervoe or even Krylon.
I did have issues with aluma hyde (with drying and other problems) which is why i haven't used it in years.

I have painted a buttload of carbines, magazines and helmets on the range without drying problems.

Then again, i don't paint in high humidity.

Just sayin'...
Mine worked great following these directions, then I got PCS'ed to this armpit of the universe, and they went back to feeling tacky for the most part. The paint is wearing off a lot faster, but oh well. Still functions and breaks up a silhouette of target indicator black.
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Not thinking too much into it. Base coat, a few swipes of green, brown stenciled from burlap, green grass marks painted on with a q-tip. All designed to look like the various places around here, kinda general purpose.

It was painted to be used around bushes for hiding anyways. And the ghetto grip is not always on it. When I'm using it in the bushes, I have a set or painted bi-pods. And no, thats not the mag I use for it. Just a spare used during painting.

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I've made several changes to my rifle so it was time to repaint it. First, the changes:

  • Replaced Surefire G2 with a G2X Tactical - although the Surefire website says they are the same diameter they are not so I had to add a rubber spacer (inner tube) for it to fit in my Gear Sector mount. This 200 lumen light is much brighter than the old G2.
  • I moved my Gear Sector QD mount closer to the receiver.
  • I replaced my Aimpoint Comp M3 in a LT129 with a T1 in a LT751; this saved quite a bit of weight and I prefer the T1 over the Comp M3 but then who doesn't.
  • I replaced a slick Ergo-Grip with a Tango Down BG-17. I stippled the grip before installing it as I thought it was a little slick on the front strap and back strap.
  • I replaced my MOE stock with a CTR for a better lock-up.

    Below are two pictures in my AO. I repainted based on The Book of Pat but first I stripped the old paint with non-chlorinated brake cleaner per Duke's advice. I'm very happy with both the changes and the new paint scheme. My goal for 2011 is to shoot the thing much more.



  • Location: Somewhere between Manteo and Murphy

    quote:
    Originally posted by Rosco79:
    The top one i tried using Duke's fishnet idea (the wife's face when I asked to have one was priceless) and the bottom is a laundry bag. Nice for comparison.


    laundry bag idea looks better than the stocking method. Good job.
    ...
    This is my plinking AR. I had to put the logo side against the couch to prevent getting banned for owning this brand Wink

    It was my first AR. I bought it before I learned who makes the good stuff. I figured I would try my hand at painting it since i don't give a shit about it.

    I used Alumahyde II and stencils I got from Brownells. It came out ok. My crappy photography doesn't do it justice. The clear matte finish really brought it together. If I had the paint job to do over again I would have used less black and smaller blobs.

    For the record, I've got a BCM lower sitting in the safe. I'm building it "one piece at a time". Just waiting for Bravo to get their 14.5 LW ML uppers back in stock.






    But every once in a while, you get to take a bad guy off the streets for good... and that, my friend, is God's work.----Ofc John Cooper, Southland

    TigerArmy01- Go to the Crusader Hall and post your intro as you were instructed in your email.

    "Sure, I fought, I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."- Ty Cobb

    quote:
    Painted my AW stock after I painted the M6A2. It was factory OD.


    TigerArmy-

    Two things:
    1. Like Pleaforwar and your email from here stated find the intro sticky in the Crusader Hall before posting anything else.

    2. This ain't milphotos or anywhere like that, we'd prefer to see the after painting in a environment outside. Oh, and are they airsoft? God help it if they are and posted here.

    enjoy the forum

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JChimpo:
    This is my plinking AR. I had to put the logo side against the couch to prevent getting banned for owning this brand Wink

    It was my first AR. I bought it before I learned who makes the good stuff. I figured I would try my hand at painting it since i don't give a shit about it.

    I used Alumahyde II and stencils I got from Brownells. It came out ok. My crappy photography doesn't do it justice. The clear matte finish really brought it together. If I had the paint job to do over again I would have used less black and smaller blobs.

    For the record, I've got a BCM lower sitting in the safe. I'm building it "one piece at a time". Just waiting for Bravo to get their 14.5 LW ML uppers back in stock.








    Why is the pistol grip so far away from the trigger well? It looks like it has a touch of the syndrome. I know it's your plinker but it hurts. I hope you take some examples out of this thread and hook up your BCM build with a paint job worthy. Good luck Bro.
    Tigerarmy01 or do you prefer your old name grayson?

    quote:
    Originally posted by grayson:
    Head: Outdoor Reasearch Balcalava
    Torso: HSGI Weesatch Plate Carrier, SOE Frog Chest Rig, CamelBack x2, SOE 3pt Sling, Interceptor Neck, Tru Spec ACU Combat Shirt.
    HandsBig Grinupont Kevlar Gloves
    Legs: Tru Spec ACU Bottoms
    Feet: Precisicon Tactical












    I only ask since you posted the same pics somewhere else both the old backyard pics and the rifles posted above. Hopefully you learned something from last time.

    mercUSA

    Joined: 12/26/02        

    location:Retired 11B in southern AZ

    quote:
    Originally posted by Mando'ad:

    Why is the pistol grip so far away from the trigger well? It looks like it has a touch of the syndrome. I know it's your plinker but it hurts.


    No seriously, HOW does one get the pistol grip so far away from the trigger?

    I honestly did not know it was possible. It looks like a Saiga rifle with a stock and a pistol grip - without moving the pistol grip forwards. How does that happen with an AR?

    (Note, this is coming from someone who has only shot factory AR's and never put one together himself)

    KBK

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    My painted up wicked city woman. I promised a photo of this Mossberg 590 way back when I posted photos of my M4 in this thread a couple years ago but never got around to it. After watching the Magpul Shotgun video she was sitting in the corner all anxious - so I took her to the range today. I broke my painting cherry with her - practicing before doing the M4. Paint was the krylon flat camo. Did a base coat of the dark brown, then hit her with flat tan and then to tone down the brights from the tan, lots of OD green. I like how she came out - more 'woodsy'.

    -Tom

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kayback:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Mando'ad:

    Why is the pistol grip so far away from the trigger well? It looks like it has a touch of the syndrome. I know it's your plinker but it hurts.


    No seriously, HOW does one get the pistol grip so far away from the trigger?

    I honestly did not know it was possible. It looks like a Saiga rifle with a stock and a pistol grip - without moving the pistol grip forwards. How does that happen with an AR?

    (Note, this is coming from someone who has only shot factory AR's and never put one together himself)

    KBK


    He's using something from brownells called a grip adapter. It's manufactured by a company called Armstech. Here is the link to the device used to make his grip look long
    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx...TE_PULL_GRIP_ADAPTER

    In all honesty, I don't see a reason for it, but to each his own, I guess. I just figured one could bend and adjust their finger accordingly for proper trigger placement.
    quote:
    Originally posted by mercUSA:
    Tigerarmy01 or do you prefer your old name grayson?

    quote:
    Originally posted by grayson:
    ///snip///


    I only ask since you posted the same pics somewhere else both the old backyard pics and the rifles posted above. Hopefully you learned something from last time.

    mercUSA


    There are a few similarities between the two rifles, but not 100% sure. Tiger, post some more pics... and for cryin' out loud, hope to God that shit ain't airsoft!
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    quote:
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    MercUSA- please PM me a link to where both sets of pics are posted.
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