The I Blame Stephen For my Painted Rifle Thread

fixit69 posted:

Do you have to speak to a cus. rep? I don't see the colors on the website.

Yeah, I did; the fact that those colors were no longer on the website was why I called in to begin with, and they told me they still had inventory I could buy if I wanted. 

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


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FYI, Aervoe is discontinuing some colors, apparently. I believe the colors in question are khaki, urban tan, light tan, and highland, all from the Military Digital pattern Camo Paint line. They do have it available direct from order from Aervoe at closeout prices; minimum orders is 5 cases (each case has 6 cans), but each case is less than 5 USD. My total order cost of 5 cases of paint was 51.89 USD, that's with the ~28 USD shipping.

Hot damn. That's mostly bad news if those colors won't be around anymore, but I'll hop on the good paint deal. I have a lot to paint.

Joined: 9/2/10                        Location: Northern Kentucky

I'll note that they also have black on the close-out sale list, although since black is also listed on their Military Vehicle & Recreation Camouflage Paint line, so they might just be trying to get rid of the overlap in the Digital Pattern line. I was transferred to a Michelle in marketing to make my purchase.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


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imageFirst round of painting work guns. We had three different submissions and this one happens to be mine. I personally think the gradual, subtle fading of 3 different Krylons, instead of a distinct pattern, breaks up the outline more. 

Any aftermarket furniture on the guys rifles or Tan PEQ15's, is not required to be painted, however original A2 stocks and pistol grips will be. 

Has anyone read the TACOM policy regarding weapons painting? It seems typical outdated, restrictive, and ultimately written by the 'PT Belt Culture' that runs the army.

We decided to paint the barrels in conjunction with an Ear plug firmly placed in the muzzle. We have comms with other scout plt's in our brigade that utilize the same procedures, and they've had no issues. 

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The only stupid we've run into has been multiple layers of paint (seriously? how do you determine that!?!?). My guys haven't painted IAW the TACOM guidance since it's pretty bad. They plugged the muzzle, closed the ejection port, inserted a throw-away mag to keep paint out of the magwell, and went to work.

"We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful."

Uncle Sam's rifles are not immune to being 4track'd. We did our M110's and our M2010's. Overall I don't think these turned out quite as well as my personal rifle, but they're still better than flat FDE and infinitely better than flat black. We didn't have (and wouldn't get) the proper Aervoe colors. The dark green was a little too blue-green and the light green was a little too "electric lime". Once they've been on a few stalks and had some dirt rubbed into them I'm sure it'll look fine.

 

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Hey so, I think somewhere in these past 55 pages or possibly in Pat's "How-To" there were some tips on stripping paint (specifically Aervoe). 

I've got a bunch of rifles to strip for the impending trade-in for Colt Commandos (   and I started trying to do one...... and it's taking freaking forever. Anybody got a best practice for removing da paint? If elbow grease is the way, then elbow grease it is, but any cheats are appreciated. 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.lightfighter.net/to...int-removal-a-how-to

https://www.lightfighter.net/to...662#2843236916057662

There's at least one more I posted to about what I do, but hell if I can find it now. 

 

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Easy way is to blast that shit with a product called Quick Strip from walmart. Let it sit for a few minutes, DON'T let it touch your skin, and then take those parts and clean them off in a sink with a sponge, toothbrush, and some simple green. 

Just throw it down the driveway until all the paint is gone!!

you're welcome. 

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Note: If you see "edited" assume it was to adjust for fat-finger typing.

Just ordered a new case of paint and I think I never mentioned the place to anyone before or recall seeing it. Rapco Parts: 

http://www.rapcoparts.com/mixmasppa.html

Great product (never had a bad can, comes with two nice nozzles), some awesome colors that are very, very accurate. e.g. the CARC substitute looks exactly like the original paint on a vehicle, just without the extra death power. 

You have to buy a case of 12 rattlecans (or they sell gallons if you want) but it's a mix and match case so you can get one or two of each color. And the price per can isn't bad for the quality once you buy 12. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

quackhead posted:

How's the rapco paint hold up? 

Tried not to expound too much on it to save space, but: Best. Paint. Ever. Just in application, it's amazing. I swear it's three times as opaque or something. I just repainted some ammo cans (had to strip them down to almost metal... don't ask) and it would take a can or two of Rustoleum. Around 10% of a Rapco can. 

I have seen wear the most on vehicles. Where it's better than the original military paint. Okay, better. CARC will peel off in big chunks under some circumstances. This tends to hold even when you drive through trees. Certainly does not dry as fast as some, so do leave it set aside for a day. 3-10 and it's really, really hard. 

I am just now (never knew) told the manufacturer of the paint is Gillespie Coatings if anyone wants to look that up. Rapco is supposedly easier to deal with for the labeling of the mil colors, but Gillespie is a plain old paint maker so I presume has all colors. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

What's the best way to store spray paint to avoid Aervoe - can - death? I've got a loooootttttt of paint sitting around, and I'm terrified it's all going to go bad. I've said this before but Aervoe's failure rate is so high for me I'm either doing something way wrong, or I need to actually swear it off.

Nothing drives me more wild than going to do a project and discovering a full can of a color I need has a mushy, dead nozzle.

 

 

 

 

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Where are you storing yours? Mine is in a basement, in the house. Got a sort of paint pantry due to some oddly shaped house stuff, so right off the shop are a bunch of shelves. It works, as I've stored it more or less like that forever and I still have a tiny bit of the spray I bought when it was on sale at the hardware store I worked at in 1986. Now brand for 88¢! That's the kind of stuff that makes me feel like a cheap old man.

I've found that spray nozzles matter. No, more than I even thought before. There's no amount of cleaning I can guarantee works, so replacement is the way to go. And sometimes, swapping with another can doesn't work as the nozzle quality sucks or something. So, I bought this http://amzn.to/22GTVaH 100 pack of very nice replacement nozzles. 100, so that no one nozzle has value anymore and if there's a question there's no question: Toss it and get a new one. That's resurrected some cans that were for sure dead. 

If you have a can with a weird nozzle, pop it off and the can has a tube sticking up, it's weird but not proprietary. Get these: http://amzn.to/1Y123Cl

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

Possible sticky painted rubber cure.

I camo'ed  some Russian 5x25 binocs that had the textured rubbery/vinyl stuff on them.  They remained disgustingly sticky and glossy for a good two months after painting.

Decided to give the sticky something to hold on to and  gave my hands a light coating of baby powder/corn starch and began gripping them all over to transfer the powder to the binocs.  Took a couple of times before de-stickification occurred.

Now they are no longer sticky or glossy and there isn't enough baby powder to be visible or to change the color.

 

Your mileage may vary but I'm satisfied enough to camo another set.

 

 

Not a rifle, but still a gun part. Still letting the paint dry off, but it looks good. I've posted before how I get my Multicam, but here it is again:

I used Desert Sand for the cream splotches. For the dark brown splotches, I used Black misted with Earth Brown. Next layer, I used Earth Yellow (misted with Light Green), and Dark Green. Final layer I used Earth Brown, Khaki, and Light Tan. Negative stenciling to generate the patterns, all paints were from Aervoe's Camo or Digital Camo line.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


Joined: 2008-07-16

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Not a rifle, but still a gun part. Still letting the paint dry off, but it looks good. I've posted before how I get my Multicam, but here it is again:

I used Desert Sand for the cream splotches. For the dark brown splotches, I used Black misted with Earth Brown. Next layer, I used Earth Yellow (misted with Light Green), and Dark Green. Final layer I used Earth Brown, Khaki, and Light Tan. Negative stenciling to generate the patterns, all paints were from Aervoe's Camo or Digital Camo line.

Nice, crisp lines and excellent color choice.  Very nice.

First off, apologies to for 4track are in order.  I had no intention on copying his unique musketoon, but my buddy insisted on Boba Fett symbols after seeing I cut stencils for Fett-ing a K-pot.  Hopefully you can forgive or excuse this infraction.  I did it in full color rather than your excellent subdued take if that is any consolation.

The AR was supposed to receive the Fett treatment, however I had difficulty with the stencils.  We painted it in a carpenter's workshop, so it got a lot of added texture from the blowing sawdust.  For the discerning nerd, there are two mags with Return of the Jedi colored Fett, and one with Empire coloration.

rifle with boba fett mags

The offending shotgun.  I think it turned out rather well.

boba fett shotgun

Speaking of 4track, anyone seen or heard from him?  He hasn't posted in months.

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LobsterClaw207 posted:
MG in TX posted:
MOJONIXON posted:

Speaking of 4track, anyone seen or heard from him?  He hasn't posted in months.

Agreed Mark, his absence is noted & puzzling as well.

 

He hasn't visited the forum since April 22nd of this year. 

https://www.lightfighter.net/member/4track

I had looked earlier,  hence my question. 

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Just finished up a rifle that I've been working on getting dialed in for a bit. 14.5" BCM ELW with 13" KMR, pinned SF Warcomp, Fury in a Arisaka mount, 2MOA  T-1, on a BCM lower with a BAD ambi selector and a SSA trigger in it. Basically set up just like my SBR but I can travel easier with it if need be...

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If anyone is interested in my process...this is my high tech paint booth. IMG_1320

Supplies: 1/2 of a Manila folder (this one has lasted for all my rifles, but it cracked right before doing the last one...I might need to make another one?), pointy knife (don't use your wife's favorite kitchen knife), spray paint (I use Aervoe but Krylon or anything else is fine too), trash can (I just found out that a P mag can be wedged into the handle of my rolling trash can to hold the rifle steady!).

WARNING: If you like your stuff pretty follow 4Track or D-MP3’s procedures...thier stuff looks amazing!!!

Guns are not cleaned (I did my SBR 15 minutes after returning home from a range day), I start with a lightish tanish color, multicamish splotches are applied after the first coat has been let dry (my drying time is measured by the time it takes to shake up the next can of paint), repeat for all colors, try not to touch the wet paint (if you smudge anything either leave it or spray over it), stop adding splotches when it seems like a good idea to do so or it starts raining. If it's sunny let it sit in direct sunlight, if it's not toss it in a corner. After a few days if it's not totally dry throw some dirt on it and / or put it in the sun again...

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Half painted, half cerakoted, rebuilt work tool.  Not pretty, but uber reliable. 

Time to throw a turd in the punch bowl of beautiful rifles.

 Im not "High Speed", Im "Non-Stick"

When I get back from my next trip, think I'm gonna repaint, or complete-painting of my precision rifle (Remington 700 PSS.). Painted it long ago and like it, but I really just did the stock. Want to carefully mask, and get the everything now so it's not largely boring (and hot in the sun) phospate/anodized/black. 

A question for the room though. 

How do you paint the receiver? 

Is it okay to just close the bolt, drop the striker and paint it? Bolt body is even a bit worn from use so I wouldn't mind some more finish on that, but is there some exposed part that is too high precision or too easily gunked up to do this safely? 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

shoobe01 posted:

When I get back from my next trip, think I'm gonna repaint, or complete-painting of my precision rifle (Remington 700 PSS.). Painted it long ago and like it, but I really just did the stock. Want to carefully mask, and get the everything now so it's not largely boring (and hot in the sun) phospate/anodized/black. 

A question for the room though. 

How do you paint the receiver? 

Is it okay to just close the bolt, drop the striker and paint it? Bolt body is even a bit worn from use so I wouldn't mind some more finish on that, but is there some exposed part that is too high precision or too easily gunked up to do this safely? 

I painted my Savage .308 like you suggested.  Closed the bolt, pulled trigger, masked exposed portion of bolt and sprayed away. No other issues that I'm aware of, though I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time. 

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Hardest part of painting a gun well is most certainly leaving it the fuck alone until the paint sets up. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

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