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Our BORTAC agents have been rocking these for a few years now (originally with keymod rails). I haven’t seen any of the 20” ones yet but the 14.5” and 11.5” ones are out and about. Not sure if we will be replacing all of our old uppers or what but these are starting to trickle down to us regular guys...

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This one was issued to me as a complete rifle, brand new upper on a used M4A1 lower (that’s how it was received at my Station from our Sector and probably from Harper’s Ferry), my old rifle was turned in to be reissued to someone else or become a pool gun or maybe get sent off to be mated to one of these new uppers? Between our new light weight plates, these rifles and new pistols coming in the next year or so I’m pretty happy with the way things are going. There are even new light weight “combatish” uniform shirts that just got authorized but unfortunately won’t be shipping until after next summer...life is good. 

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Location: Southern Arizona 

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Yup, other than the muzzle device (One of my BORTAC buddies has a Warcomp on his)  and the 1” shorter (& M-Lock) handguard it’s basically the same as my SBR at home (no happy switch on mine) right down to the BFH barrel & H2 buffer.

This lower looks to have a brand new receiver extension for some reason? Maybe part of a rebuild process of our old guns at HF? Just wish they would have added something other than an A2 grip...but I’ll live. 

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

No idea on what the pistol is going to be other than it’s going to be 9mm & striker fired. Probably one of the usual suspects, we should know sometime mid next year and Southern Border Stations should start getting them issued around the end of 19 beginning of 20. The Northern Stations will get them first, then us or the Academy next.

We have Trijicon V-cogs in our inventory, I’d imagine the 20”ers will be getting those (although my 3gun shooting buddy has one on his 14.5”). I think the 20”ers are supposed to replace the M-14’s we have as a “designated marksman” type rifle. There are also ACOGs and Aimpoints available (our old Eoturds are being fazed out), my Station tries to accommodate shooter preference for optics.

We have both P-mags and USGI mags on hand (I keep a USGI in my rifle and P-mags as reloads in case I need to put it in the vehicle rack, the P-mags don’t fit). 

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Location: Southern Arizona 

When I was at the Miramar Air Show in San Diego a few months ago, I was surprised to find Customs Special Operations (I can't remember their exact title) rocking 11.5 BCM uppers complete with their M Lok rail on M4 lowers. For optics they're using Aimpoint PROs and I think Surefire Scouts. 

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I wonder why Northern Stations get first chance on the new carbines? Nothing ever happens up here on the "Frozen 49th". The most exciting event is always end of shift. Oh, there was that one time when a moose that tried to EWI, but the agent on the spot said something in bad academy Spainglish and the moose (who spoke only French) left. The agent nearly had to get out of his pickup. As it was he did pause his Netflix. 

 

The Northern Stations are getting the pistols first, not the rifles. I was told it’s because we have a shit ton of .40 on hand and paid for but not delivered yet, the Southern Border Stations and the Academy will be able to burn it up faster...

Customs (OFO) has their SRT teams...that’s probably who you saw. We’re all CBP under Homeland Security and have the same arms. 

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Longeye posted:

 As it was he did pause his Netflix. 

 

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Longeye posted:

I wonder why Northern Stations get first chance on the new carbines? Nothing ever happens up here on the "Frozen 49th". The most exciting event is always end of shift. Oh, there was that one time when a moose that tried to EWI, but the agent on the spot said something in bad academy Spainglish and the moose (who spoke only French) left. The agent nearly had to get out of his pickup. As it was he did pause his Netflix. 

 

It is that expected Canadian sneak attack to annex to Canada some warmer living areas. I understand they especially want to seize the gulf coast.

As for modification, nope. We can add on a light, foregrip and that’s about it. A pistol grip would be an armorer level thing (bolting stuff on is fine, removing / replacing is not). On the pistol side, there are a bunch of guys out at Harper’s now that seem to know what’s up and a few with serious competition backgrounds. It’s been noticeable over the past couple years in the training coming outta there, pretty modern stuff that tracks with what the high level trainers LF’rs are familiar with are putting out (because our guys are training with them).  

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Location: Southern Arizona 

So yet ANOTHER example of how LE  gets weapons that we civilians cannot possibly get, continuing the disparity and lack of trust between the people and our overseers.  Did we cast off the yoke of royal oppression to become subservient yet again?

Why I find it appalling that I can't have.....wait.  OK so outside of my M16 I can't have....well my M203 is kinda cool.....but outside of those....and my suppressors.....and certainly my belt fed and submachine guns, I feel unequal. 

Actually, my stuff is better.  Hmmmmmm.  You know what, forget I mentioned anything.  You guys enjoy your new toys.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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As for modification, nope. We can add on a light, foregrip and that’s about it. A pistol grip would be an armorer level thing (bolting stuff on is fine, removing / replacing is not). On the pistol side, there are a bunch of guys out at Harper’s now that seem to know what’s up and a few with serious competition backgrounds. It’s been noticeable over the past couple years in the training coming outta there, pretty modern stuff that tracks with what the high level trainers LF’rs are familiar with are putting out (because our guys are training with them).  

Re. the mods etc. that sounds right as I recall seeing that BCM foregrip & the SF/EAG 3 cell Fury on your personal guns before.

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AD15B8F0-C2B8-499B-8045-405D93BD0F31Yes, the one pictured is my assigned rifle, I zeroed it and it sits in the Armory rack when I don’t have it out in the field. Each Station also keeps a number of “pool” rifles as well for check out but there are usually plenty available if an Agent wants one assigned. 

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, I zeroed it and it sits in the Armory rack when I don’t have it out in the field. Each Station also keeps a number of “pool” rifles as well for check out but there are usually plenty available if an Agent wants one assigned. 

 Is it secured enough to keep some clown/idiot from finger fecking your stuff?

 

So just out of curiosity, since you leave it in the armory when you’re not carrying it. What stops some mouth breather from finger fucking your gun when you’re off? Adjusting sights, messing with the placement of accessories, taking it on patrol with them, etc? 

Our Armory is a limited access area, but...witness marks and co-witnessing before shift is my normal.  Assigned rifles are not supposed to be checked out to anyone but who they are assigned to. There are plenty of pool guns so there isn't really any reason for it to happen...

But...I’ve heard stories...plenty of stories. 

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Location: Southern Arizona 

I would get a paint marker in a subdued color and make witness marks on the sights and optics. Easy way to see if someone has been finger banging your gun. 

 

But overall, it looks like a nice setup for your needs. 

 

 

 

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What a waste and so typical of the Patrol.  It helps traveling around the country shooting matches and being friends with the lead FI who issues them out...have you at least got your new lightweight plates?

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