Post where you get your materials:

I'll start,

Cordura:

Busch & Associates
Fair prices, require ten yard minimum continuous order, $5 cutting cost.

Bradford Dyeing Assosciates

AHH

Invista

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The Thread Exchange


Hardware:

Lowy USA
They have OD and Tan Hardware, a tad expensive but they have it.

National Molding

ITW Nexus

Hook and Loop:

Fastech

Fastenation

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There are varying ideas on threads and webbing types out on the market.

Look at no less than #69 bonded thread..

Currently the industry is using sizes between this and 138 threads.

Threads are sold in 4oz 8 oz and 1lb CONES and depending on how much you roll, they can last for a while, but estimate about 15-30% of that thread cone not used rather cut into shreds on your floor.

EGG

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how about shock cord and cord locks like on the tactical tailor mag pouches?

I am having zero luck locally.

Even the outdoorsy store just have really small and really large stuff.
Jim
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No joy on CQB solutions selling raw material. Confused

They've stopped doing that.

REI has a good selection of 1" tubular webbing for making drag handle. The olive colour is GTG.

ACCESSORY CORD AND WEBBING

BUCKLES, CORDLOCKS AND MISC.

FLAT WEBBING AND SHOCKCORD

HTH.
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As soon as I get my shit together, I will be offering the service CQB used to.

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This can be a touchy subject for some, but I believe in the free exchange of info. Here's my list. If you have better sources, let's hear 'em.
Sewing Machines (new): sewingmachinestore.com, industrial-sewingmachines.com
Sewing machines (used): centralsewingcentre.com
Parts and supplies: supsew.com, centralsewingcentre.com
Cordura (10 yds min): buschassociates.com
Cordura (1 yd min): para-gear.com
Webbing: tnwebbing.com
Thread: qualitythread.com, johnhowardcompany.com
Velcro: tnwebbing.com, ripngrip.com
Fasteners, plastic: lowyusa.com, johnhowardcompany.com
Fasteners, metal: pia.com/djassoc, fastener-supply.com, custom-metal.com, para-gear.com
Snap Fasteners, black: para-gear.com, pia.com/djassoc, fasnap.com, johnhowardcompany.com
Grommets, black: fasnap.com, fastener-supply.com
Snap and Grommet setting tools: para-gear.com
Sewing Info, Machines, Materials, Techniques, etc.: Poynter's Parachute Manual, Vol I (para-gear.com)
You might notice Paragear popping up quite a bit in there. For the beginner, they are a nice, one-stop shopping place, that sells goods at higher prices, but in small quantities. TANSTAAFL. Until you are ready to invest several hundred bucks in supplies, they are a good source to start with.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Melinda (Emmado22) from ebay has some good deals on webbing, plus she also has all those little neat items. If you do find something you want from her send her an email as she will hook you up cheaper by goin direct.

Melinda email emmado22@hvc.rr.com
Some of her webbing all @ 15$ a roll
1 3/4 OD seatbelt
1 3/4 Tan seatbelt
1 1/2 OD and Tan webbing
1 OD webbing
1 1/2 OD Tan elastic
1 OD elastic
Essential Tactical- Gear so sexy, even the enemy will want to fuck you.
Sewone sold me my Juki DNU-1541S at about as good a price as you will find. Service and support have been excelent.

I have had very good luck for the most part on eBay, but it is hard to tell just what you are getting from the photos sometimes. Something that looks OD on your screen may be a tad closer to forrest green than you wanted when it shows up, that sort of thing. Usually, it is not so bad a deal and you can use it, but it can be a bit of a crapshoot. Remember: most designs for gear use materials in places that it cannot be seen, so this might be a good place to use materials that are a bit off-spec in color, etc.

If you have a Northern Industrial store near you, they sell tarps made out of various weights and colors of Cordura that can constitute a pretty good deal sometimes. Man, some of those colors can be pretty funky though. :-) I have obtained perfectly servicable black, browns, tans, royal blue, international orange and OD green that way. I passed on the fuschia and neon puke green, though :-)

>>>BULLET>>>

Hello everyone, just an fyi on fabric purchasing attempts. I tried to buy from bradford dyeing associates and was told that they sell only to companies and not individuals. This may be different from purchsing cordura but then again i was not looking for a cordura purchase.
Sir, it was pretty far! From that book suppository building, sir!
I'm looking for some screened grommets,like the ones on boonie hats.When I ask for "screened grommets" no-one seems to know what I'm talking about.

Is there a name for these?
How about a CB or OD sil-nylon source,anyone?


Also www.tridentfabrics.com for cordura,ripstop nylon(poncho material),and other stuff.

TNX
BulletcatchR

"When this world becomes ours,what we are doing will be right"

Bulletcatchr:
Got all you want in gray, but don't have the tools to set them. E-mail me.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Egg the vinyl you can get at www.seattlefabrics.com , there a little pricey there bein in yuppie vill seattle. Good people to deal with tho and i have spent many of hours in there.

Other than lowy for mesh(way to much for a roll) all i know of is cqb solutions, but didnt someone say they dont sell fabric anymore. Might be worth a call to see if they will do it fro you tho
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quote:
Originally posted by Rucker68:
EGG,

What color, and how much of the mesh are you looking for. I may be able to help you out on this one.


Scott


I might be interested as well...prolly about 5 yards or so, OD or khaki/tan/coyote/whatever.

TimW Phoenix "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic'. We should stand up and say, we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration" Hillary Clinton

B&A has black mesh, in firm and soft. I gather that firm is what we are looking for here.

If anybody is intersted in getting in some black, I can handle that as part of my ongoing group buy, assuming we can come up with the ten yard minimum. For those that are getting in some of that Coyote/Chocolate Brown Cordura, the black mesh may be the way to go in conjunction with that, a la the SADF Pattern 83 gear, which is of a similar shade of brown and uses black mesh. Not a bad looking combination. I plan on doing a fair bit of work in Coyote Brown, so I might be good for five yards or so of the black frim leno mesh. Any other takers?

I have yet to look at the price structure that Lowy has for their mesh, but somebody mentioned that it is somehow cost-prohibitive to go that route. Whatever. My Lowy group buy is proceding much slower than my B&A group buy anyway. If anybody else is looking at getting ahold of some green/tan/coyote mesh, I might want to jump in on that deal, too.

>>>BULLET>>>

Quick question:
What does everyone here use to install snaps and punch holes. I'm looking for the most economic route. I know Jo-Ann sells hand setters and hole punches but would they work with the materials that we use? Any sources would be appreciated. Thanks.

"Karma is only justice without the satisfaction"

The best bet for us is to do it manually. Buy hole punches in the sizes you need, 1/8" for snaps, 3/16", 1/4", etc. for grommets. Then get your dies and setting tools as req'd. I highly recommend getting a rawhide mallet for setting. Regular hammers mushroom and crack your setting tools. Para-gear.com is a good source for this stuff if you don't have anything local. Try to set your hardware in webbing if possible. Acts as a doubler and less likely to tear out. Funny thing is, I've worked on those big pneumatic machines w/ auto feed and while you can can set a buttload of hardware, they were very twitchy and prone to break down or jam.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

BTW, I got in some of the 1" OD Velcro mentioned before...it is the "Hi-Air" variant which uses lots of Nomex in its construction. This is an FAA-spec flame resistant product, but the bad news is that it does not seem as strong as the normal Vecro product.

I like the price well enough, but for some of the stuff we do, this will not cut it. :-(

>>>BULLET>>>

Well thats not good to hear as i ordered 4 rolls of it. But its also the chances we take on ebay <---Moon

Bullet I have 1lb spools of F 92 OD thread if you need a few.
Essential Tactical- Gear so sexy, even the enemy will want to fuck you.
Lapplandicranger-

B&A is good to go. THe green 483 is one of my favorite colors. It has a slightly stiff hand (really depends on the mills on that one). The Coyote Tan, and Coyote 483 (brown), are a little bit softer. If you guys use any type of lamination proccess (glue, etc.) you can solve this problem. My .02, as i like my cordura stiff. I will admit though, the OD (plain OD) that i have from them is REALLY soft (feels like 300-500 Denier)! Others may have had different experiences though. The military line that they carry on the website has a stiff hand though- highly recomend it. Speaking of sources, here's 2 great sources for Cordura Nylon:

www.brookwoodcos.com
-They carry an exstensive color line of 500-1000 denier cordura nylon (they actually carry everything- packloth, and a whole bunch of other crap). Problem is that the hand is really soft. Good for anyone who wants to add cordura to modify any BDU's. No minimums except for a small charge if the cut is less than a certaint amount (5 yrds??)

www.competitiontextiles.com
-My favorite supplier! They carry pretty much all your fabric needs, plus they laminate cordura with a foam (like how eagle does with the camelbak line). What i like is that the cordura line is REALLY stiff! The only problem is that they only sell by the 50 yrd. bolt. (if any one wants to do a group buy, let me know..)

HTH
-Rich

"Karma is only justice without the satisfaction"

About TN Webbing, I am looking for 1 in webbing like the GI stuff on Ruck Sacks, and I didn't see anything that was about the same thickness and toughness when TN sent me their swatches, anyone got a number for that stuff? Or its brother, the 1.5 in?

Also, if its a class 2 item, anyone have the NSN?
Never interrupt the enemy when he is doing something wrong. - Erwin Rommel
I plan to pick up some shock cord from REI, however I suspect it won't be in "tactical" colors.

Anyone with a source for OD and brown/coyote and black shock cord would be greatly appreciated.

Tim

TimW Phoenix "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic'. We should stand up and say, we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration" Hillary Clinton

3/4" tape- keep checking w/ tnwebbing. Order from para-gear if you have to. Anyone got a line on tan/coyote paracord by the spool?

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

I got mine in packs from Ranger Joes, prolly not the best way to go about picking some up, but I haven't seen spools yet. Anyone got a source for BLACK grommets? I've been looking for black grommets and everyplace I've seen listed as a supplier only appears to have brass and nickle. Thanks
Never interrupt the enemy when he is doing something wrong. - Erwin Rommel
Hey guys I'm having a major problem finding the following items in small quanity, everyone wants to sell like 35 yard minimums. Our local shop is crap.

1/4 or 5/16 bungie I only need 3 yards.
2" Flat woven OD Elastic 3 yards.
2" Military OD webbing 5 yards

If anyone can help me out with the following I would appreciate it.
zip 93955 to figure shipping.
Southern Thread in Chattanooga. This is a great place to buy thread - www.southernthread.com. They sell 2 pound cones of 92 weight bonded nylon for $5 each for colors, or $8 for black or white. They also sell over ebay. Their ebay store is called southern thread. You can check out the colors they have there. The dark tan color works for coyote brown stuff. I just purchased several rolls and am very pleased.
I am looking for a buckle like this special designed buckle or something similar in design :


It does need to have a load resistance as for parachute harnesses or alpinism harnesses buckles.

Thanks for your help.
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Hey Woody,

Get that sling yet? Smile

Also, I have the PALS webbing (same type as what Gene @ HSGI uses), but the only Cordura I can spare is a Tan color...kind of like Eagle's Matt Johnson Khaki, only a little bit lighter...think Desert Tan, not Coyote Brown, but with a slight golden color, not the tan like in SpecOps Brand gear....

I can get you that, no problem. It works pretty well with the OD webbing, IMO. here's a link to my experimental plate carrier webpage, but at the moment, it seems to be tits up:

http://www.practicaltactical.net/html/ptxpc03.html

As such, I'm emailing you a picture of a pouch I made using it and OD webbing. Let me know.

TimW Phoenix "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic'. We should stand up and say, we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration" Hillary Clinton

email w/details inbound.

TimW Phoenix "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic'. We should stand up and say, we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration" Hillary Clinton

Really great thread. just getting started..
I was wondering if anyone knows of where a supplier for mesh came out of this or not? Im saving my money for a sewing machine and want to get all my ducks in a row of where to get everything I need. Im looking for black, OD and Coyote Mesh.. The kind used in the vests.. i read here but the info didnt seem to be present.

Also that new "Brickhouse"?? pattern I have read about sounds very interesting.. I have an SDS I RAK vest that has it.. It is like a 600 and 400 denier weave I think.. Real nice.. It seems durable.. It withstood me wrestlig with MALICE clips and adjustments for 2 hours.. lol

Thank you
_____________________________ "In skating over thin ice, our safety is in our speed" R.W. Emerson
quote:
Originally posted by Nelson:
Does anyone know where I can get either Polartec 200 or 300 weight fabric by the yard?

nelson, visit the maldenmills store at
www.maldenmillsstore.com
you can get 100,200,300,windstopper and some other stuff by the yard here. hope it answers your question if you havent found the answer already. Smile
-Bill "we came, we saw, we kicked it's ass!"-ghostbusters
oh, and also i was wondering if there was another place like busch and associates i can get condura from other then para-gear. from busch you need some kinda lisence to buy from them so i can't get any...any info is appreciated. thanks,
-Bill "we came, we saw, we kicked it's ass!"-ghostbusters
D Man, what do you mean you need a license from Busch? I've ordered quite a bit of stuff through them, and never had any problems... The only thing is that they have a kind of large minimum, 10 yards usually is a lot of fabric for guys just starting out.
Never interrupt the enemy when he is doing something wrong. - Erwin Rommel
OK I looked threough the thread and I haven't seen this request....

I want to buy some Kydex (or equiv) and hardware to made a few prototype pieces of gear from myself.

Ideas?

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